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Time for Israel to appoint a king, scholar says
Israeltoday.co.il ^ | 11/02/08

Posted on 11/02/2008 10:19:43 PM PST by Oyarsa

Renowned Israeli biblical scholar and historian David Solomon last week said that conditions in Israel today are ripe for replacing democracy with theocratic monarchy and appointing a king.

Speaking to Israel National Radio, Solomon said that the leadership and religious crises currently facing Israel mirror those during the time of the Prophet Samuel.

Millennia ago, the people of Israel turned to Samuel to help them replace their form of government with a monarchy in order to alleviate the nation's problems.

Just as then, many Israelis today might view a theocratic monarchy as a viable answer to Israel's "disastrous absence of genuine political and spiritual and religious leadership," said Solomon.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: davidsolomon; israel; israelinationalradio; israelnationalradio; king; theocraticmonarchy
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1 posted on 11/02/2008 10:19:44 PM PST by Oyarsa
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To: Oyarsa

I’d favor Israel having a king too if my name was David Solomon. I’d figure I have at least an outside chance.


2 posted on 11/02/2008 10:22:16 PM PST by Question Liberal Authority (Make your own damn pie.)
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To: Oyarsa
A king must come from the Davidic dynasty. I would be in favor of restoring the monarchy.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

3 posted on 11/02/2008 10:23:17 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Oyarsa

As long as the King’s name is Jesus, I’m cool with it.


4 posted on 11/02/2008 10:25:52 PM PST by PureSolace (Trust in God)
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To: Alouette

It’s good to be the king.


5 posted on 11/02/2008 10:31:14 PM PST by I got the rope
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To: Oyarsa
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6 posted on 11/02/2008 10:42:48 PM PST by Stayfree (The Obama Disaster.com has all the latest reasons why Obama shouldn't be President!)
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To: Oyarsa

Israel asked for and received one of these many years ago but they must have forgotten about that king. King Saul. Be careful what you ask for. Veerrrryyy careful.


7 posted on 11/02/2008 10:46:54 PM PST by taxesareforever (Quick justice for the senseless killing of Marine Lance Cpl. Robert Crutchfield.)
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To: Oyarsa

I remember in the OT it seem like every other king was bad to the bone.

Sometimes they had several good ones, but then they would have whole string of bad ones.

They need to follow God, not a king.


9 posted on 11/02/2008 11:05:26 PM PST by Fichori (I believe in a Woman's right to choose, even if she hasn't been born yet.)
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To: Oyarsa

okay i admit it i dont understand all the end of the world stuff...but i do know this...

kings are a really bad idea..people who dont even call them selves kings but are...are a bad idea. i dont think israel has to look very far to see the results of failed theocratic rulers...or failed pseudo kings...

sorry, democracy for me...now and always...everywhere...


10 posted on 11/02/2008 11:08:50 PM PST by Irishguy (How do ya LIKE THOSE APPLES!!!!)
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To: Oyarsa
1 Samuel 8
Israel Asks for a King
1 When Samuel grew old, he appointed his sons as judges for Israel. 2 The name of his firstborn was Joel and the name of his second was Abijah, and they served at Beersheba. 3 But his sons did not walk in his ways. They turned aside after dishonest gain and accepted bribes and perverted justice.

4 So all the elders of Israel gathered together and came to Samuel at Ramah. 5 They said to him, "You are old, and your sons do not walk in your ways; now appoint a king to lead [a] us, such as all the other nations have."

6 But when they said, "Give us a king to lead us," this displeased Samuel; so he prayed to the LORD.
7 And the LORD told him: "Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. 8 As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you. 9 Now listen to them; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do."

10 Samuel told all the words of the LORD to the people who were asking him for a king. 11 He said, "This is what the king who will reign over you will do: He will take your sons and make them serve with his chariots and horses, and they will run in front of his chariots. 12 Some he will assign to be commanders of thousands and commanders of fifties, and others to plow his ground and reap his harvest, and still others to make weapons of war and equipment for his chariots. 13 He will take your daughters to be perfumers and cooks and bakers. 14 He will take the best of your fields and vineyards and olive groves and give them to his attendants. 15 He will take a tenth of your grain and of your vintage and give it to his officials and attendants. 16 Your menservants and maidservants and the best of your cattle [b] and donkeys he will take for his own use. 17 He will take a tenth of your flocks, and you yourselves will become his slaves. 18 When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day."

19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel. "No!" they said. "We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles."

21 When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. 22 The LORD answered, "Listen to them and give them a king."
Then Samuel said to the men of Israel, "Everyone go back to his town."

11 posted on 11/02/2008 11:26:49 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

I was just teaching this in Sunday School to the kids. I’ll have to let them know about this idea is still around today.


12 posted on 11/02/2008 11:30:11 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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To: 21twelve
It is one of my favorite passages, although it is sad and haunting, because it contains so much truth in it. How much history is forshadowed here? How much of our fallen human nature revealed?

And the LORD told him: "Listen to all that the people are saying to you; it is not you they have rejected, but they have rejected me as their king. 8 As they have done from the day I brought them up out of Egypt until this day, forsaking me and serving other gods, so they are doing to you

[...] When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day."

13 posted on 11/02/2008 11:41:37 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Vince Ferrer

“When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day.”

I thought of this this morning as well, just two days before the election. I didn’t mention it to the kids though. And I hope they didn’t see the moistness in my eyes as I thought of it. I think we as a nation have gone so far astray from God already that if we elect someone like Obama that might push God over the edge.

Either that, or we have already pushed God over the edge and Obama will be His punishment on us. Either way, I keep praying and donating for McCain!


14 posted on 11/02/2008 11:49:03 PM PST by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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To: 21twelve

Keep praying and remember, in 2Kings 6 Elisha prayed for his servant who saw the army coming for them and was quaking in his boots, knowing they were toast. He told his servant “there are more of US than there are of THEM.” He asked the Lord to open his servants eyes and when He did, there was an army, with chariots and fire, amassed on the hills ready to fight the battle. I pray there are more of US than there are of THEM and McCain will be our next president.


15 posted on 11/03/2008 12:02:53 AM PST by Semperfiwife (Common sense is in short supply in Washington)
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To: Oyarsa

And just who is going to play Samuel, by finding and anointing His choice?


16 posted on 11/03/2008 12:20:28 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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To: I got the rope

"It's good to be the king."

LoL!

17 posted on 11/03/2008 12:54:28 AM PST by rvoitier
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To: Oyarsa

They have one, he just hasn’t returned yet. When he does we all will know.


18 posted on 11/03/2008 1:30:38 AM PST by personalaccts (Is George W going to protect the border?)
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To: Oyarsa

“Rebellion from tyrants is obedience to God”— Benjamin Franklin


19 posted on 11/03/2008 1:58:48 AM PST by Soliton (Faith is an act of love; Love is an act of faith)
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To: Oyarsa
I guess the person writing the article isn't too familiar with the story... First off, The Lord wasn't too pleased with the people wanting a king, but allowing free choice, The Lord allowed it... And the result was King Saul. Not exactly the best of times for the Jews, according to the Bible. It wasn't until David came along that things began to improve, but then we also know what happened there. Not exactly a happy home life.

Plus, I'm not sure there's a Samuel, Saul, or David waiting in the wings to do such a thing.

Mark

20 posted on 11/03/2008 3:37:09 AM PST by MarkL (Al Gore: The Greenhouse Gasbag! (heard on Bob Brinker's Money Talk))
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