Posted on 11/02/2008 12:30:36 PM PST by Retired Greyhound
On a brief jump flight from Philadelphia to Scranton, McCain adviser Charlie Black and Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback came back to talk up the campaign's conviction that the glass if half full. "Four years ago at this point, George W. Bush was down five points in Iowa," Brownback said. "Today John McCain is down one point in Iowa."
He was citing an unreleased internal McCain campaign poll of the state, which was completed last Thursday, said Black. (The campaign stopped doing its own polling after Thursday, he added, because television time through the election all had to be purchased by Friday.) However, public polls in Iowa suggest that McCain is still in a big hole. Last week, the Des Moines Register poll, which has a good record of prediction in that state, put McCain's deficit at 17 points, with Barack Obama garnering 54 percent of the support.
"McCain is in a good position to win every red state," Black said. "Plus he is probably going to win Pennsylvania and Iowa." Polls have narrowed sharply in Pennsylvania in recent weeks, though Obama still has a sizable lead of 7 points in the Real Clear Politics average. Black said he had seen a poll recently that showed McCain tied in the Philadelphia suburbs, a crucial swing region of the state.
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Less than 48 hours!!! One final push to save the U.S.A.!
The challenge:
Between NOW and election day, convince at least two Obama/Undecided voters to vote for McCain. (family, neighbors, friends, people waiting in the check-out line) Further, convince these two people (or two others) to take up the same challenge. (Like a chain letter)
So you have converted people in the past? Good, but we need more!
Many Obama supporters are mindlessly supporting him, with no real reason, this means it is VERY easy to get them to switch over. Even if you fail, other Obama/undecideds may be in the room and hear valid arguments and question their faith in the One.
Don’t kick yourself a week from now saying “I could’ve done more....”
Do your part...your country depends on it!
“NH is in the bag. Bank on it. There is 8 McCain signs to every 1 Obama. Kerry had far far more stickers and signage.
Believe me.”
I hope your right, but the sign wars don’t mean too much unless if you are campaign worker.
In central NH, I see the exact opposite, many more Obama supporters compared to McCain. Most McCain supporters I talk to are “in the closet” and only speak up when they are in safe audience. I am a teacher and it’s safe to say half th the teachers are for McCain (several libs included), but being very quiet about it due to the union.
That is our best hope this election that there are a lot of people like that.
McCain's campaign wouldn't be wasting his time in IA if this poll were anywhere near being accurate in comparison with multiple internal polls. A guideword for us this election - if a poll has the name of any MSM entity, big or small, attached to it, take it with a galactic-scale grain of salt.
To put this in perspective for the non informed PA folks, of folks who have been buying into the national pundents and polling crap about PA, here's what this means.
Kerry took the Philly suburb counties by about a 100k margin and Kerry took Philly county by a 450k margin (4 to 1). If The Philly Burb counties are polling even, Fauxbama is down 100k from Kerry out of the gate. The Fauxbama camp have believed all along that they will outperform Kerry in Philly significantly.. and they may, I question this assumption highly, but even if Fauxbamas camp eeks out another 100k votes in Philly proper than Kerry, they have only countered their losses in the burb counties, and support for Fauxbama across the rest of the state is significantly lower than it was for Kerry. That 550 vote margin out of Philly and burbs last time, plus 100k more with Allegheny (pittsburgh) and Erie, was only 140/145kish when all was said and done.
If Fauxbama comes out of the Philly region with a 550k margin (same as Kerry's) but does it by getting more out of Philly proper, but breaking even in the burbs, he loses the state, and does so by a wide margin. He won't get 100k out of Pittsburgh and Erie, he'll likely win them, but the margin won't be that great, and he'll underperform Kerry throughout the rest of the state.
Fauxbama is losing PA folks, take it to the bank. And its not going to be that close at the end of the day... the momentum that McCain is bringing into the close of this campaign, you are looking at him winning PA by a larger margin than Gore won it in 2004.
I rememer that very clearly. A friend of mine jokes that he and I delivered Iowa for Bush because we spent most of election day doing a streat demo at a major highway interchange in Dubuque. A 4 X 8 Bush-Cheney sign, a Flush the Johns sign and a plunger to shake around. Great fun!
I would note to you that we have heard no leaking of polling data from the Obama campaign.
I would assert that the reason we don’t hear anything is because it is bad. They prefer to continue to let the media press these crap public polls.
A constraint DemocRats do not acknowledge or obey.
Yes, you told us so! I believe. I believe.
Didn’t Axelrod tell us they would win 400 EV about ten days ago?
What happened?
I'm not as worried about the ACORN vote fraud as many are. After all, a lot of the overt fraudulent signups will never appear - they were just names filled out by lazy canvassers to make their quotas. And besides, Mickey Mouse probably isn't going to be allowed to vote in any poll that has a GOP poll watcher, period. The Dems have always been defrauding the vote - having the dead vote, bussing in near-vegetables and filling the ballots out for them, etc. etc. ad nauseum. The only difference this year is that many people have made a lot more noise about it than in previous years. Other than that, I see little reason to think the actual amount of fraud will be greater than before - and we've won against that pretty consistently. The rule of thumb I've heard is that the GOP needs to do about 4-5% better at the polls than they would normally need to so as to overcome Dem vote fraud - and yet we've done that many a time.
good point.
If anything, they seem to be downplaying expectations right now.
One person posted an urgent call for help in NM on a liberal forum, saying they are behind targets and having a hard time convincing people to vote O regardless of what the polls say.
I think so. If we win PA it's over, even if we've lost VA, because OH is definitely going red this time out. But, if we lose VA and PA, it's over. That said, beware: The networks will almost certainly call VA early for Obama, then correct themselves...it could lead to a Floriduh situation, or it could just be a speed bump on the road to victory...we'll see.
The left and its minions in the Drive By Media are in for an absolute vanquishing on Tuesday. Absolute obliteration.
You signed up today just to tell us this ?
McCain seems to think differently about CO- since he and Palin WILL be in CO on Monday.
Go back to Obama campaign headquarters, and tell them we're not buying !
Larry, as sure as I am that you’re right...you don’t get to say “I told you so” until election night! :-)
From your lips to God’s ears.
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