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IBD/TIPP 11/2/08: O: 46.7; M: 44.6; U: 8.7
Investors Business Daily ^ | 11/2/08

Posted on 11/02/2008 9:24:06 AM PST by freespirited

The race tightened again Sunday as independents who'd been leaning to Obama shifted to McCain to leave that key group a toss-up. McCain also pulled even in the Midwest, moved back into the lead with men, padded his gains among Protestants and Catholics, and is favored for the first time by high school graduates.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; christianvote; electionpresident; ibd; mccain; news; swingvote
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To: nuvista

Most Jews will not vote for anyone with an R after their name.

Even in 1980, Anti-Semite Jimmy Carter got 60 percent of the Jewish vote against Reagan. Reagan was the first Republican I ever voted for.


81 posted on 11/02/2008 10:36:45 AM PST by WilliamReading
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To: CycloneGOP
undecideds are breaking for Mac.

Most of them aren't really undecided. They are McCain supporters who don't want to say so.

So when they vote for McCain on Tuesday, it will look like the undecideds broke for McCain.

82 posted on 11/02/2008 10:40:08 AM PST by T Ruth (Islam shall be defeated.)
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To: The Fop

Good post. Savage had a caller on his show who said the same thing. My guess is he was Italian American from NYC. He pointed out that liberal Jews and Catholics have become less or really non-religious. They are filled with guilt and liberalism has really filled the void as their religion. I wish I remembered everything he said because he was the best caller I have heard on any talk radio show. I was in my car and just tuned it in. They guy really nailed it.

I get it about not religious and throw tacky Bar-Mitzvahs. I have a friend from France who is (I assume) Conservative and very observent. He said he had to leave France because he feared for his children’s lives. He said Europe is finished for the Jews and then in the near future finished for the non-Muslims or few practicing Christians.

I am shocked that many American Jews are clueless about Obama’s connections with Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood (Saudis).


83 posted on 11/02/2008 10:45:38 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: Mad_as_heck

I have been mystified for years as to why Jews appear to be voting their own destruction. Except for the Biblical command to “bless Israel” I’d be about done with them at this point. How on earth can anyone, especially Jews, vote for the party endorsed by those sworn to kill us all, Jews first ?


84 posted on 11/02/2008 10:45:38 AM PST by prov1813man (While the one you despise and ridicule works to protect you, those you embrace work to destroy you)
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To: SuziQ
The internals of this poll show that 21% of CONSERVATIVE voters are going for Obama. I just find that hard to believe! Are some of them playing with the pollsters?

In PA in 2004, Kerry only took 11% of Republicans.

The only theory I have read that would explain why Obama is getting such a large % of conservative voters is that rural voters, strongly pro-McCain, are just not responding to polls, so pollsters end up getting their conservative sample from urban and suburban voters, who are much more liberal than their rural counterparts.

85 posted on 11/02/2008 10:49:09 AM PST by randita
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To: WilliamReading
At this moment, Intrade has McCain at a 12.5 percent chance of winning on Tuesday.

Absolutely, 100% completely and totally meaningless.
86 posted on 11/02/2008 10:52:31 AM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: freespirited

I like this poll for how straightforward it is. We have some work to do to win this thing, but there are some areas that show promise. Years of education don’t seem to matter (or in reverse — maybe reflecting academe Obamamania), but middle and upper middle class people all strongly favor McCain. People who are all kinds of Christian favor McCain. (Embarrassed to DEATH about my race-conscious Jewish brethren, all with something to prove about how cool they are. I can assure you that if this candidate were a very pale-skinned man whose every friend was an Israel enemy, the liberal Jews would probably be all campaigning against him. They are voting en bloc as usual because they are afraid to go against their friends, who can be brutal. Maybe some room for a Bradley effect here.)

This is winnable but as usual we all wait with bated breath for the unaffiliated, undecided, uninterested to decide whether to go out in the rain and vote for one of them, or just order a pizza and call up the girlfriend.


87 posted on 11/02/2008 11:07:09 AM PST by Yaelle (McCain chose torture over selling out his country. Obama would have lasted one minute.)
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To: Frantzie

“keep your mouth shut and flush him down the toilet on election day in the privacy of the voting booth.”

that was awsome


88 posted on 11/02/2008 11:10:02 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: prov1813man
I have been mystified for years as to why Jews appear to be voting their own destruction.

I think the problem with getting Jewish voters in the US to see that the GOP is a better choice is two fold.

First, like most Americans, they live in a country that is so rich and secure that danger seems very far away. As a nation we are rich, fat, and self-satisfied. Secondly, modern Judaism has a long and noble history of supporting open handed, reformist, genuinely "liberal" causes like the civil rights movement. I consider modern liberalism to be a fraud. It is easy for good people to be suckered in by monsters who know how to spin and lie.

A large portion of the sincere, decent liberals left in the world are Jewish. Note Joe Lieberman. I would guess that a larger percentage of liberal Jews have seen the light- at least on some issues - than any other population that voted as far left 20 years ago.

89 posted on 11/02/2008 11:25:59 AM PST by Mad_as_heck (The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
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To: WilliamReading

This is worth a flyer. How do you get the money to their future company quickly? Somebody is going to clean up. I am going to a rally in 2 hours for our Repub House challenger. I will try to see if anyone has any info on internal polls. I am sure people in the GOP do not share them with anyone.


90 posted on 11/02/2008 11:44:15 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: MovementConservative

And Florida, and New Hampshire, and Nevada. He can win PA and OH and still lose. He really has to have an outstanding night to win.


91 posted on 11/02/2008 11:45:47 AM PST by Huck (Teddy Roosevelt vs. Che Guevera)
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To: GLDNGUN

Oh yeah it is meaningless. I think the fellow posted it because someone who has the guts to lay their money down on McCain now is going to make a fortune.


92 posted on 11/02/2008 11:47:17 AM PST by Frantzie
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To: The Fop

How true your post is! The same is definitely the case in L.A. as well. I almost choked when you wrote that the liberal Jews pay fortunes for their kids’ tacky bar Mitzvahs and don’t know anything about Judaism! We have been to some of these events, where the Torah reading is rushed through to get to the noisy, spectacular parties where bacon is served, cheese in the salad, and the poor old Holocaust-surviving Grandmas are crouched in a dark corner, cowed by the loud hip hop music.

Aargh!!!


93 posted on 11/02/2008 11:54:17 AM PST by Yaelle (McCain chose torture over selling out his country. Obama would have lasted one minute.)
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To: Frantzie

For the record, you can also make safer bets on Florida, Ohio, Missouri, etc.


94 posted on 11/02/2008 11:54:33 AM PST by WilliamReading
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To: freespirited

I still maintain that Obama doesn’t get any higher than 43% of the vote and that the extra 3 - 10% that the polls say he’s getting is completely absolutely wrong and is made up.


95 posted on 11/02/2008 12:04:01 PM PST by pctech
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To: WilliamReading

Thanks. I will check it out. Somebody smart will make a lot of money.


96 posted on 11/02/2008 12:30:30 PM PST by Frantzie
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To: Frantzie

It will be too late for you to do anything before election day. The only way to fund your account is by sending a check through FED Express.

American credit cards are no longer taken.


97 posted on 11/02/2008 12:38:23 PM PST by WilliamReading
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To: TruthWillWin
I’ve never been able to understand why the Jewish vote goes to Dems?

IMO (I'm, not Jewish): abortion.
98 posted on 11/02/2008 1:10:16 PM PST by Mike Fieschko (et numquam abrogatam)
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To: freespirited
Have to wonder about these undecideds. How many of them won't bother to vote at all.
99 posted on 11/02/2008 1:11:18 PM PST by Churchillspirit
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To: Frantzie
Oh yeah it is meaningless. I think the fellow posted it because someone who has the guts to lay their money down on McCain now is going to make a fortune.

Ok, from that perspective, I would say it offers a great potential ROI. I know some people post these betting odds on political races saying "well, these people who put their money where their mouth is really know what they are talking about. People don't screw around with their money". Fact it, just because someone's willing to bet on something does NOT mean they know squat. And, yes, people DO screw around with their money ALL the time. Just look at lottery sales.
100 posted on 11/02/2008 1:23:35 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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