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To: dascallie
I don't understand the PUMA's. Obama's positions aren't that different from those of Hillary and the press and the "tolerant" were just as vicious to conservatives who opposed the Clintons. On what grounds are they opposed to Obama?

However, that being said, it is nice to see liberals noticing these things that they used to ignore. It just may be that, whoever wins the election, the odds will be a little more even from now on. It's nice when conservatives aren't the only ones who notice these things.

62 posted on 11/02/2008 6:55:32 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vehe'min beHaShem; vayachsheveha lo tzedaqah.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Alot of people have to live through something themselves to totally understand the impact. The PUMA’s get what we’ve been going though all these long years.


65 posted on 11/02/2008 7:04:01 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Zionist Conspirator
When someone is within the left, they never seem to understand that there is no such thing as dissent without consequences. One has to experience it first hand from within before one can recognize it.

Those still inside the donk party/left have accepted that the enemy is the right, W, and Christians. They accept that we are the intolerant ones, the ones who use dirty tricks and that we are evil. When they are targeted, as in the caucuses and the various machinations of the donk primary, they first take it personally and feel badly. As time goes on, they understand just what is taking place: that this is leftist policy and no dissent is allowed.

It hasn't changed in 40 years, from what I can tell. Now, it is just ubiquitous. Obey or be punished. We are by now used to it and accept this as the MO of the donks/left. The Hillary supporters thought they were inside and thus they were good and would be protected by their rights. They were wrong, of course.

When this happens to people, they feel as though they were gut shot. It takes time, even after understanding what is going on, to emerge from the shock and take a stand. Unfortunately, it may no longer be possible to take a stand without becoming partisans, in the WWII sense of the word.

I do not support Hillary. However, her positions are more centrist than zerO’s. I doubt any donk understands yet that the press pass given the Clintons only emboldened the radical left to enact their coup. The Clinton’s kept the payback to the most visible and prominent of their opposition. They used FBI files and untraceable accidents and simply removed folks. They intimidated and smeared the bimbos knowing that most of us would think the women deserved it for having an affair with BJ. zerO is taking it one step further: everyone will be suppressed if they don't obey.

69 posted on 11/02/2008 10:12:36 AM PST by reformedliberal
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