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To: JustaDumbBlonde

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrs2006/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0008.HTM

“[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child...”


48 posted on 11/01/2008 2:10:23 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
“[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child...”

Bear with me, 'cause I'm trying to muddle through this. First, was the the statute in effect at or around the year that Obama was born? Secondly, in Hawaii, is there any difference whatsoever between a "birth certificate" and a "certificate of live birth"? The statute that you cited indicates that, upon proof as required, that they will issue a "birth certificate".

An additional question that comes to my mind after pondering on the info that you've provided is, if he was issued a birth certificate pursuant to the statute above, does that birth certificate actually state the place of birth? Further, from reading the statute it would appear that there is no requirement for citizenship of either parent, just that the parent has to have declared Hawaii their place of residence.

There are certainly questions that can be answered without actually seeing this document that Hawaii officials are protecting. Now when I say protecting, it is not to imply that they are doing anything but following the rules and/or laws that they would follow for any other person.

Depending on the answers that one comes up with, it seems that it might actually be possible that Obama was born elsewhere and there is not a darn thing that can be done to verify that fact.

Thanks for the conversation. This is much more informative than a mere collection of comments from people demanding to see something that they feel they are entitled to see, while the law may say otherwise.

"Constitutionally speaking, there is no single, designated authority over this. Natural born, over the age of 35, etcetera, but nothing specific about addressing challenges to these requirements."

That is a darn shame and should be remedied at the earliest possible date. Much of the energy that is being expended just demanding to see Obama's birth certificate could really be put to use trying to change the fact that nobody is supposed to be making sure that our presidential candidates are qualified according to the Constitution.

52 posted on 11/01/2008 3:59:47 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (America: Home of The Free Because of The Brave)
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