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To: lastchance; David; LucyT
There would be no reason for the DOH in Hawaii to have a copy of Obama's birth certificate if he was not born there.

Wrong. There is a provision in the Hawaii statutes which enables a Hawaii resident to register the out-of-state birth of a newborn with the Hawaii authorities. Obama's mother or maternal grandparents could have availed themselves of such an opportunity, in which case a copy of a Kenyan birth certificate could have been filed with the paperwork presented to the Hawaii state government. In this scenario, the Hawaii DOH would indeed have possession of the birth certificate, but he would not have been born in the US.

202 posted on 11/01/2008 10:38:06 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Thank you. I had not heard of that provision before. Is this so the record is easily available to the resident in question? I have never heard of that before and maybe it is unique to Hawaii. I know I could not get any kind of copy of my B/C from anywhere except NJ. Now if an out of State or Country B/C is on file with Hawaii I do believe it would not be a privacy violation if that FACT was disclosed. If they can say yes we have a B/C confirming Hawain birth they sure as heck can say we have a B/C confirming Tasmanian birth.


203 posted on 11/01/2008 10:48:57 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: justiceseeker93; Kevmo; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; Polarik; PhilDragoo; ...

Thanks, Justiceseeker93.

Ping to a comment that will help you explain to the neighbors about 0bamao’s birth certificate, and how it was registered in Hawaii even though he was born in Kenya, as stated by his Kenyan grandmother and other relatives living there at the time.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2121270/posts?page=202#202

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209 posted on 11/01/2008 11:28:33 AM PDT by LucyT (Is B. Hussein 0bama a legal resident of the US? Is he in this country illegally? Just askin')
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To: justiceseeker93

Here is the provision of Hawaii Law under which a person can obtain a birth certificate for their infant even if that infant was born outside of Hawaii (e.g., Kenya).

Hawaii Revised Statutes [§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]

Thus, the existence of a birth certificate on file with the Hawaii Department of Health is irrelevant to whether a child was BORN in Hawaii.


215 posted on 11/01/2008 12:33:40 PM PDT by liberty2all
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