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Survey USA says Obama ahead by 55%-40% (+16 Dem Sample in poll, R's turned out +2 in 2004)
Survey USA ^ | 10/30/2008 | Survey USA

Posted on 10/31/2008 12:57:28 AM PDT by DiogenesLaertius

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1 posted on 10/31/2008 12:57:29 AM PDT by DiogenesLaertius
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To: DiogenesLaertius

Are they trying to incite riots?


2 posted on 10/31/2008 1:01:16 AM PDT by Stayingawayfromthedarkside
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To: DiogenesLaertius; admin

This result is specific to Iowa. This should have been appended to the thread title!


3 posted on 10/31/2008 1:08:41 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: DiogenesLaertius

I have Obama ahead by 23 pts when I count how many nuggets of dog food my dog gets in a single bite, depending on whether I present the bowl from the left or right side while setting it down. My MOE is 10 pieces.

Now, when do I get a TV interview?


4 posted on 10/31/2008 1:09:28 AM PDT by GnuHere
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To: the_Watchman

Crap, how do I edit it?


5 posted on 10/31/2008 1:09:58 AM PDT by DiogenesLaertius
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To: DiogenesLaertius
Satan will come down and fetch Obama because he's probably more useful in Hell giving the sinners hope when there isn't any... such torture. Lying is his forte.
6 posted on 10/31/2008 1:12:24 AM PDT by Blind Eye Jones
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To: DiogenesLaertius

I looked at the SOS Iowa figures last night when i saw this, Survey USA is usuing a sample of

Dem 45%, Rep 29%, Indie 25% when the figures officialy from the Sec of State for Iowa are 34% Dem, 29% Rep and 36% Indie, they deliberately oversample dems by 11% and undersample indies by 11%. The rep figure is correct.


7 posted on 10/31/2008 1:13:46 AM PDT by sunmars
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To: DiogenesLaertius
"Obama ahead with women by 27%"

All those PUMA women don't agree with that. How in the world can they think a poll with such ridiculous oversampling of RATS will be believed by anyone?

8 posted on 10/31/2008 1:17:32 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: DiogenesLaertius
Dems +16 in this poll, GOP voted +2 in 2004. Means McCain is ahead by 3. Given the +/- 3%, it means McCain wins by 6.

We McCain supporters shouldn't get overconfident at these new results. GET TO THE POLLS.

9 posted on 10/31/2008 1:21:20 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Bombing Billy Ayers-the Timothy McVeigh of his generation.)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

This has to be the worst “poll” ever! We’ll deal with these scoundrels AFTER the election!

Here are the under-reported reasons I have collected why McPalin will win from visiting FR way too much.

1) The press (AP, MSNBC) is starting to turn on Obama. They see what’s happening in the early returns. Please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2119327/posts and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2119299/posts

1.8) If you have not considered that Democratic Presidential campaigns would try to browbeat you into thinking that a Democrat win was inevitable, and that you should side with “history,” and vote with everyone, please read http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2117212/posts

1.85) According to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2118129/posts, McCain is polling evenly in early voting exit polls in a county that has 28% more Democrats. Repeat: DEMOCRATS ARE VOTING McPALIN!!!

1.9) Oh yeah, the “Joe the Plumber” video isn’t the only time Obama has let fly with his “spread the wealth” worldview. He blabbed about it profusely in 2001 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2116921/posts

2) “Polls” that show Obama ahead tell a different story when internals are studied. Please see http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/14/an-eeyore-free-zone for a primer on how polls are cooked. UPDATE: Rasmussen saying McCain ahead in Florida and Ohio.

And now, a brief history lesson of ACTUAL ELECTION RESULTS:

1980: Reagan 50.75%, Carter 41%, (+9.75 Reagan) Reagan won 45 states.
1984: Regan 58.77%, Mondale 40.56% (+18.21 Regan) Reagan won 49 states.
1988: Bush 53.37%, Dukakis 45.65% (+7.72 Bush) Bush won 42 states.
1992: Clinton 43.01%, Bush 37.45%, Perot 18.91% (+5.66% Clinton) Clinton won 30 states.
1996: Clinton 49.23%, Dole 40.72%, Perot 8.40% (+8.49% Clinton) Clinton won 31 states.
2000: Bush 47.87%, Gore 48.38% (Gore +0.49%) Bush won 30 states.
2004: Bush 50.73%, Kerry 48.27% (Bush +2.46%) Bush won 31 states.

NO WAY is Obama up 14 points!

3) Hillary and Bill are not acting like they want Obama to win, since she wants to run again in 2012, despite what she alludes to. Notice Hillary has not gotten Berg to cut it out with his “birth certificate” lawsuit.

4) “Hussein” being Obama’s middle name is still news to most people.

5) A picture of Obama dressed as a Muslim (there are at least three) is still worth 1000 words (3000 in this case). Man your email station! Post bills!

6) The PUMAs who know the hows and whys of Hillary getting cheated, will vote Palin, and will pull others. Check out http://www.hillaryclintonforum.net/discussion/showthread.php?t=33711&page=3 and http://democrats-against-obama.org. Freeper lonestar67 says, “Surveys have suggested that as many as 20-30% of Democrats may vote for McCain based on the rejection of Hillary. If even fractions of these claims are true, Obama would be hard pressed to win the election— especially in key states such as Pennsylvania and Ohio.”

7) “[Bitter Clingers] to [Religion and Guns]”, will vote McCain, so much so that 22K of the 45K in Grand Junction, Colorado came out to see her http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110920/posts.

8) The Palins ARE America and the conservative base. America and the conservative base will vote accordingly. According to http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2106836/posts parts of the country that were not fired up about the election, are working for Palin. She draws THOUSANDS at every campaign stop.

9) The NRA has “8 figures” of ads to unload in “swing” states

10) At one point, Obama was only 5 points up in New York! New York!

11) The Democrats were talking about Democratic consultants freaking out over Obama mis-managing his campaign before they settled into poll alteration.

12) The Enemedia is already spreading the meme that if Obama loses, it “is racism”. They see the tea leaves ...

13) The Media was calling the election for Kerry ELECTION MORNING in 2004, and Carter and Reagan polled evenly on election day! SOMEONE is trying to buffalo us with these polls! For more on the history of polls leaning Democrat, please see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2106669/posts Both Zogby and Mike McCurry predicted a Kerry win.

14) McCain has only started to play the Ayers card. McCain has not yet played the Tony Rezko, Odinga, ... more at http://www.barackbook.com

15) Plenty of long-time Democratic voters are http://thehill.com/dick-morris/undecideds-should-break-for-mccain-2008-10-28.html Long time Democrat votesrs are unimpressed with Obama, and will not vote for him. Two midwestern transplants have volunteered to me that they know lifelong Democrats who WILL NOT vote for Obama. The 1st hand accounts here on Free Republic about lack of enthusiasm for Obama relative to Kerry similarly bodes poorly for Obama.

16) Obama has only 75% of the Jewish vote last I checked, just like Kerry (comfortable R win). Gore got 90% (close R win). Please see http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/05/obama_and_the_jewish_vote.php and http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08293/921167-470.stm

17) The Christian base that re-elected Bush in 2004, knows Sarah is more than a Sunday Christian, and is praying for her.

18) McCain opened 50 offices in California. It’s in play! It should be the bluest of the blue, and it is not.

19) Google “Bradley Effect”. Obama is getting poll votes he’ll never get on election day. PUMAs have also agreed to lie to pollsters about supporting Obama, and are encouraging others to do so.

20) Operation Chaos resulted in an overlarge quantity of Democrat registrations that will never ever vote Democratic.

21) Obama’s “spread the wealth” line to Joe the Plumber will cost him undecideds not ready to etch the current class structure in stone.

22) The Enemedia overstating Obama’s popularity will cut two ways. The lazy, and the youth, (core Democrat constituencies) will not brave traffic and lines to vote on election day, since they were lied to by the KGBMedia to believe that Obama has a gigantic lead. In fact, if I worked for the GOP, I’d make sure free beer/music parties were being held outside of every major blue city before/on election day. They’re called “raves”.

23) There is a group playing Jeremiah Wrights ads. Read more about it http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2108462/posts, and to donate visit https://www.completecampaigns.com/FR/contribute.asp?campaignid=OCDBPac.

24) The Obama crew already knows they’re going to lose. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110803/posts and http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2103037/posts

25) Kerry won the Nickelodeon kids vote 57/43, and Obama won it 51/49! If you don’t think kids vote like their parents, then you got another thing coming! http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2110843/posts

26) Freeper lonestar67 says, “... the misogynist treatment of Palin by the media elite has provided additional elements to the coming silent backlash— especially among women.”

27) Three people over 50 (white male and two Mexican women), on two occasions, on October 25th, asked me if I know about Obama not being a citizen. My Dad knows, and he emailed all his friends also. Point being, EVERYBODY KNOWS that Obama ain’t benevolently and humbly forthcoming with his birth certificate, and thus something fishy is afoot in Camelot.

28) Polls are meant by the Enemedia, to SHAPE public opinion, not to accurately report it. Get your news here! Stop torturing yourself! We bring the liberal media lies here, and we dissect them through the lenses of Christianity and Conservatism.

Make sure you ...

1) campaign and/or pray and/or donate
2) vote
3) wear the gracious smile of a victor

Fellow Freepers, please feel free to post this list every time you see a Freeper or anyone feeling down, anywhere. No need to credit me or ping or write me.

Let me know if you have any other under-reported reasons for the coming McCain/Palin win.

Please tell me if you think there are mistakes.

Hey Obama supporters!! Taxes kill businesses, which kills jobs, which kills people.


10 posted on 10/31/2008 1:21:43 AM PDT by ROTB (Our Constitution [is] for a [Christian] people. It is wholly inadequate [for] any other. -John Adams)
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To: Stayingawayfromthedarkside
Are they trying to incite riots?

That's exactly what they are trying to do. Instead of closing the numbers, Zogby and now Survey USA are increasing the spread of party affiliation.

Turnout for McCain was supposed to be demoralized and therefore low. Since early voting is not showing that to be the case, this new strategy is being employed: Open the spread and cry foul and racism (of course) when McCain pulls it out. What with the riots and all, maybe McCain will even concede.

Seems to be their plan alright.

11 posted on 10/31/2008 1:22:16 AM PDT by Mensius
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To: DiogenesLaertius

You need to get the attention of the admin moderator. That’s why I copied the ‘admin’, but that might not be the correct name. You can always get their attention by using the “abuse” button and identify yourself as the original poster. Good luck. :)


12 posted on 10/31/2008 1:23:31 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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13 posted on 10/31/2008 1:24:31 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Mensius
this plan to make wild poll predictions is part of their plan.....despite their efforts to sound innocent and nonpartisan, these pollsters use techniques that would make Mary the Mother of God look bad....

DON'T GO WOBBLY FOLKS....DONATE TODAY AND TOMORROW AND VOLUNTEER AND VOTE, VOTE, VOTE...

14 posted on 10/31/2008 1:26:51 AM PDT by cherry (Fighters Fight !)
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To: DiogenesLaertius

I heard 0bama is also making a trip there this weekend, one that was not scheduled until late. Makes you think he is concerned about some internal polling that reflects the national tightening trend.


15 posted on 10/31/2008 1:48:47 AM PDT by WestFlorida
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To: DiogenesLaertius

I doubt the actual numbers are that far apart, but it wouldn’t surprise me if McCain was lagging behind there because of the ethanol subsidy issue.

You never know, though. Mac and Sarah might just surprise in Iowa (I’d rather trade Iowa for a nice, red, Pennsylvania, though!)


16 posted on 10/31/2008 2:32:00 AM PDT by DemforBush (I'm voting for Palin and that's all I got to say about that!)
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To: Blind Eye Jones

????


17 posted on 10/31/2008 2:55:15 AM PDT by somerville
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To: DiogenesLaertius
Why are we even having this election? Let the coronation begin in earnest! (sarc) These scumbuckets either don't have a clue of the damage they're doing with these heavily doctored polls, or they just don't give a damn and will do anything to see the “chosen one” victorious. Personally, I think the reason this is being done is to dishearten potential McCain supporters by trying to give them the false impression that the election is already in the bag.

Let me finish by saying this: this election is far from in the bag, but the one thing that is beyond question is that the MSM will go down in journalistic history for losing all credibility by their total and complete bias for the false messiah.

Can someone please tell me why every picture of Zero is ringed with a halo!?

18 posted on 10/31/2008 2:59:27 AM PDT by RU88 (The false messiah can not change water into wine any more than he can get unity from diversity.)
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To: WestFlorida

No,he’s not scheduled to come to PA this weekend. I receive media lists on the campaign schedules, and it’s not on it.


19 posted on 10/31/2008 3:00:43 AM PDT by somerville
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To: sunmars

Part of it is the students who register independent but vote Dem.

I tend to think that obama will win iowa because he focused all of his attention/resources on the state for months when he was down in the polls vs Hillary. I was in IA end of last year, and he had offices all over the state that continued student voter registration and other activities all year long after he won the caucus. I’m just glad they only have 7EVs.

If IA/NH both go for BO solidly, I have to question why the GOP would agree to a primary system that gives these two states the lion’s share of attention.


20 posted on 10/31/2008 3:01:39 AM PDT by MDformerDem
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