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Take it for what its worth, but to me, it vibed too real to ignore. I especially thought the information about the opposition research, Michelle Vetoing Clinton as VP, and why the Obama campaigns in many areas that should be considered safe in the last week of the election. At any rate, it gives plenty of reasons to be hopeful even if it is patently false.

Keep fighting!

1 posted on 10/31/2008 12:31:27 AM PDT by DiogenesLaertius
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Good post! The only thing I disagree with is the Bradley effect. I don’t think real conservatives are subject to the Bradley effect because they aren’t racists. Liberals are truly the racists. I don’t think most intelligent people are entertained or enamored by surveys and polls. Sueveys and polls are designed to make you “feel” like you have contributed your opinion and that they will really listen to you. These people taking surveys don’t give a crap about what you think.


44 posted on 10/31/2008 3:52:50 AM PDT by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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Truth be told, any sane person would have run as far as they could from the Klinton’s.


45 posted on 10/31/2008 3:58:27 AM PDT by Carley (The media understands credentials but does NOT understand principles.)
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46 posted on 10/31/2008 3:59:55 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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A lot of these points are valid, but I don't think this came from within the Obama campaign (as fun as that would be!). I jut have a hard time believing that there are secretly disaffected Obama staffers who have access to all of the internal polls and all of the opposition research. Campaigns like this are really big, and really compartmentalized to keep info from leaking out.

The poster also contradicts himself, saying that Palin "has had a minimal impact on pulling disaffected Hillary Democrats," and then later in the same paragraph stating that she "had some appeal to independents and Hillary voters." Which one is it?

This "Annonymous" writer puts together a list of states where Obama "has no chance," and a lot of them are going to be truly competitive, and look very promising for McCain, but then he drops New Hampshire on the list. McCain has a fighting chance there, but there's no way that anybody can say that Obama "has no chance" in New Hampshire. I think we'll pull it off, but to say Obama "has no chance" would indicate McCain could pull up roots there today and be sure he could coast through to victory. Not so.

The Bradley Effect, if there is one, is also not ten percentage points. Also, during the primaries, there was actually a reverse Bradley Effect in states with high percentages of blacks, like Virginia and North Carolina, where Obama ended up getting far more votes than expected. So to say that they're being written off because of the Bradley Effect means the poster doesn't actually understand what the Bradley Effect supposedly does (if it's real at all — there's a lot of debate about that, too).

I'll take any good news I can ahead of Tuesday's election, and I'm saying daily prayers for victory, but I'd say the value of this article is more in the weight of its ideas than the veracity of its source.

47 posted on 10/31/2008 4:14:49 AM PDT by Devils Avocado
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I dunno check this out. People have gone over the edge!

Mother teaches son, “Obama Rules”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AGGBDAMHZU&feature=related


51 posted on 10/31/2008 4:36:03 AM PDT by Athena51
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My biggest problem with this campaign’s strategy was the decision NOT to offer Hillary the VP slot... Though I have no way of knowing this for certain, and I do admit that I am relying on internal gossip, Senator Obama actually went against the advice of his top advisors... In short, he let personal feelings take precedence over what was the most logical thing to do.

To be fair to Obama here, if the only thing standing between Hillary and the Presidency was your beating heart, would you feel safe?

53 posted on 10/31/2008 4:43:39 AM PDT by kevkrom (If Obama promises to tax your neighbor to give to you, what's he promising your neighbor?)
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I saw a posting on this last night and it was removed because, allegedly, the link didn’t work. It did for me and I linked to the original article. Pretty scarey stuff but I tend to agree with the poster about everything said. It sounds like something the DNC would do. They are no longer patriotic and have been taken over by socialists.


61 posted on 10/31/2008 5:08:34 AM PDT by pctech
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In my capacity in the research department, I looked into the backgrounds of Leiberman, Romney, Pawlenty and Ridge, and prepared briefs. I don’t mind bragging that we had pretty good stuff on all of them. With Leiberman, the plan was to paint him as an erratic old-timer who didn’t have a clue as to what he was doing (pretty much a clone of McCain). In Romney, we had him pegged as an evil capitalist who cut jobs. Pawlenty was going to get the “Quayle treatment”, or more precisely: a pretty face, with no valid experience. Tom Ridge was going to be used to provide a direct link from McCain to Bush. As you can see, we were quite enamored of all of them.

He works in the research dept!? This is pretty well known throughout America. No scandals or other crap here either. Just differences in ideology.

Compare this information to the information found on Obama by our "research dept".

69 posted on 10/31/2008 7:26:15 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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Thanks for posting.


81 posted on 10/31/2008 4:21:00 PM PDT by GiovannaNicoletta
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“Then the unexpected happened – Sarah Palin. We had no clue as to how to handle her, and bungled it from the start. “

That has a VERY big ring of truth to it....


87 posted on 10/31/2008 9:28:04 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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"My biggest problem with this campaign’s strategy was the decision NOT to offer Hillary the VP slot." It's so weird that she didn't get the offer. I totally agree with you. The first lady vetoing Clinton as VP didn't really put me in a great mood. I mean seriously, I'm nobody, I'm just in the glass window film selling tint film and specifically things like decorative window film, but even I know when something doesn't smell right in relation to a campaign's practices. I'm hopeful just like you are DiogenesLaertius and Keep fighting!
89 posted on 05/13/2010 12:45:19 PM PDT by Decorative-Window-Film
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