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To: Frantzie
All I know is that this is a county Bush lost twice, by 2% each time, and we have consistently had McCain up, outside the MOE, here. It would be very, very difficult for Obama to lose this county and "make it up" someplace else, because Cleveland and Cincy cancel; Warren and Franklin cancel.

Let me understand what you are saying: the DEM ward pols are all working for McCain? Do you mean stealth or openly?

Finally, unless you are giving CO to Obama, he has already lost with the scenario you lay out. VA, OH, FL, CO, and NV=274. McCain doesn't need PA.

73 posted on 10/29/2008 1:59:04 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: LS

I refer to them as ward pols. From what I have heard from people who know them they are like a state ward pol because it is a small state. They are supposedly very plugged in and strong with hispanic voters in that state. These people always vote Dem.

The word is also that the community, which are VERY devout Catholics, have been given the word from the bishop. O is totally unacceptable on his abortion positions. This is not like 2000 or 2004.

The word from the bishop in NM and PA (two in PA) that Obama is totally unaccpetable. PA may be semi-strong but in NM they are very strong. If it is the bishop versus your union or normal party voting there is no question the bishop and Church come first. These people are not Kennedy Catholics.

In addition, one FR member says more than a few old time NM Mexican Americans he has run across believe O is the AC as in anti Chr..t. Oddly, I have heard this from evangelicals I know.


78 posted on 10/29/2008 2:34:13 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: LS

Forgot to answer your question. I do not think it is stealthy at all. People know they are working McCain. The state has 3 regions. One part is pro-Repub, one is smaller in population and very Dem and the middle is bigger pop and more Dem than Repub. The small area they may flip most. The bigger area they should be able to flip enough.

You can email if you want more info. There was a thread I started here on Sat night (I think) that had more from other FR people in that state. They felt strongly that McCain will win that state.


80 posted on 10/29/2008 2:39:36 PM PDT by Frantzie
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