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To: nickcarraway
I see you are unable to counter my previous points.

As for your new question and change of direction, may I suggest e-harmony.com.

49 posted on 10/28/2008 7:14:43 PM PDT by nufsed
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To: nufsed

I did answer your previous questions, see my post. I have never seen anything written in history that the purpose of marriage is, “happiness.” Please provide me with something authoritative that says otherwise. As well, I told you about the research in other countries that shows when homosexual marriage or civil unions start, heterosexual marriage becomes meaningless.


50 posted on 10/28/2008 7:17:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nufsed
Can you read any of these articles: The End of Marriage in ScandinaviaThe "conservative case" for same-sex marriage collapses.

In this article, Stanley Kurtz addresses exactly what you are talking about, "the conservative case for homosexual marriages." i.e. that denying marriage to homosexuals is denying them rights.

Please read it. This is the first paragraph:

MARRIAGE IS SLOWLY DYING IN SCANDINAVIA. A majority of children in Sweden and Norway are born out of wedlock. Sixty percent of first-born children in Denmark have unmarried parents. Not coincidentally, these countries have had something close to full gay marriage for a decade or more. Same-sex marriage has locked in and reinforced an existing Scandinavian trend toward the separation of marriage and parenthood. The Nordic family pattern--including gay marriage--is spreading across Europe. And by looking closely at it we can answer the key empirical question underlying the gay marriage debate. Will same-sex marriage undermine the institution of marriage? It already has.

56 posted on 10/28/2008 7:24:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nufsed
Slipping Toward Scandinavia

These articles represent more than your third-grade legal theory of happiness or id-based marriages.

62 posted on 10/28/2008 7:30:41 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nufsed
may I suggest e-harmony.com.

Why should I pay for that? If I have a right to be married, the state of California should not take away my rights.

69 posted on 10/28/2008 7:37:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nufsed
Marriage is about children and raising the next generation. Its not about adult sexual gratification. That may be a part of marriage but marriage is about more than a couple finding fulfillment in each other.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

161 posted on 10/28/2008 9:42:58 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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