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To: jwalsh07
The issue is not the license. It is the regulations. Are they justifiable or not. What is the justification for retricting homosexuals from being married. The fact that the state issues a license means they are obligated to issue it eqially and have justifiable restrictions.

Maybe you can tell me why the state is issuing marriage licenses.

115 posted on 10/28/2008 8:10:10 PM PDT by nufsed
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To: nufsed
The issue is not the license. It is the regulations. Are they justifiable or not. What is the justification for retricting homosexuals from being married.

Rights are niether regulated nor licensed. And if they are then they certainly can't be absolute rights so your argument falls apart either way.

The fact that the state issues a license means they are obligated to issue it eqially and have justifiable restrictions.

The state is not some great beast in the sky, it is "the people". And "the people" should have the final say. This is what is happening in California. Simple stuff. Of course not all rights should be rgeualted by the whims of the majority, I agree with you there. But there is no traditional right to allow same sex couples to marry so it's not a right. I believe you have a right to life, liberty, property, political speech and freedom to choose the religion or non religion of your choice. I don't believe you have a "right" to healthcare, a 3000 sq ft house, an SUV and 6 weeks a year on holiday.

Maybe you can tell me why the state is issuing marriage licenses

To protect property rights and children.

121 posted on 10/28/2008 8:18:25 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (It's the Marxism Stupid!)
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To: nufsed
The fact that the state issues a license means they are obligated to issue it eqially and have justifiable restrictions.

The fact that men and women are of the opposite sex, and that marriage is a sexual bonding of people of the opposite sex (otherwise, what differentiates it from any other bonding, such as between brothers or friends?), seems to be reason enough for the restriction. People for many, many thousands of years have agreed, across every culture on earth, and it never remotely crossed their minds that people of the same sex could "marry". The Founding Fathers never even so much as entertained the idea. Neither has any great philosopher, theologian, or legal scholar. The alleged "right" to same-sex "marriage" wasn't mentioned in the Magna Carta, the writings of Confucius, or the works of Edmund Burke. Yet a few leftists and libertines come prancing along and act as if this alleged "right" is self-evident, for no other reason than that they demand it, like some spoiled brat who wants to throw a plate of spaghetti against the wall because, well, because he wants to do it, damn it!

129 posted on 10/28/2008 8:28:57 PM PDT by puroresu (Enjoy ASIAN CINEMA? See my Freeper page for recommendations (updated!).)
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