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I'm thinking McCain will win these areas. What say you?
1 posted on 10/28/2008 2:28:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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“These are economic conservatives, they’re not social conservatives,” said George Mason University professor Michael McDonald

“The biggest issue for me is the economy. We can’t survive without the sales,” said Mercherle, who plans to vote for McCain.

Kind of says it all!

2 posted on 10/28/2008 2:33:07 PM PDT by antceecee (McCain ~ Palin '08 May God have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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Husband and I are Dallas exurbanites and we’re voting McCain-Palin and Republican all the way. However, was disconcerted yesterday when neighbor said he’s thinking of voting damnocrap this year because “it can’t be any worse” to which I said YES IT CAN.


3 posted on 10/28/2008 2:46:32 PM PDT by amyjane (The closest to what's right in any situation has all God's power behind it.)
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Suburbs “bore” Obama. Will “exurbs” matter?


4 posted on 10/28/2008 3:00:27 PM PDT by pray4liberty (Watch, pray, and work. This election will separate the sheep from the goats.)
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I'm thinking McCain will win these areas. What say you?

I'm in Texas, so the old school suburbs and exurbs are GOP strongholds for the most part. In general, I think people who live in the exurbs tend to be conservative in outlook and friendly to the GOP. You live out there because you want to get away from crime, high taxes, and live in a healthy environment with your family. If I had to guess, I'd say a fair number of those who live out there are evangelicals. Yes, you have to drive a little more than if you lived in an urban area. That makes many sensitive to gas prices.

I see Obama failing miserably in the exurbs. His campaign has failed at courting these types of voters. It's clear that he is dismissive of these people and their concerns. He derides not just evangelicals, but anyone who is strong in their faith. Basically he seems to think that anyone who doesn't live in an urban area is a hick and a racist.

The lesson for the Democrats coming out of this election is that they still cannot count on a base which excludes white protestant suburbanites and rural residents and that mocks them. These people vote. A base that consists of some upscale neighborhoods, professors, college students, slackers, gays, and minorities is not enough.

For the last 7 years the voters of the suburbs and the exurbs have seen themselves constantly mocked by the entertainment industry. Their faith, their lifestyle, and their politics have been denigrated to no end by the far left which is ascendant in the industry and which suckles the Democrat party. The treatment of Gov. Palin is just the latest example.

I may be ahead of myself, but I think this election will be won by the Palin Republicans. That is, people who are in their late 30s to early 50s, family oriented, religious, patriotic, and entrepreneurial. These are voters who have been hurt by the recent economic turmoil, but these are people who still believe in the American Dream and who do not believe that America's best days are behind her.

There's a reason the Democrats have had a losing product usually in presidential races since the 1960s. That's because they are reflexively anti-American and anti-entrepreneur. Lately they've also become anti-faith. It's no small coincidence that the last two Democrats to win the White House have been Southern Democrats, individuals who know that you do not trash rural voters and expect to win an election.

Obama is going to be beat by a larger margin than Kerry's losing margin in 2004. He simply does not connect with middle America. On top of that, it's clear he is nothing but a racemonger and sees this country in terms of black and white. It may be a shock, but voters out in the exurbs do have the internets and don't usually get their news from the MSM.

Naturally, when Obama loses, it will be chalked up to "racism." Now, there's race at play in this race all right, but it's coming from the left side. Obama hates whites. He's said so in one of his two narcissistic tomes. He felt he had to choose a racial identity, and he chose radical black.

His campaign royally F'd up. Now, I don't think this was by accident. Obviously they know how to do some things well. Where they screwed up was in not explicitly moving past race and emphasizing that Obama represented the end of race as a divisive issue in our country. Why did they choose to do so? I believe it is because the true Obama isn't post-racial. He doesn't believe in one America. He believes in a black America which will get its justice from white America. Look at his relationships and tell me if that looks like someone who is likely to not care about race as an issue: Farrakhan, Wright, Ayers, etc... Look at his writings and his utterances. This guy is a radical left wing lunatic.

Obama has not ever faced an electorate in which he needed to win over middle America to win. He just has not. Hillary absolutely crushed him in those areas in the primaries. I agree with Bill on Obama. His campaign is indeed the "biggest fairy tale" ever.
5 posted on 10/28/2008 3:08:23 PM PDT by Harry Wurzbach (Joe The Plumber & Rep. Thaddeus McCotter are my heroes.)
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Before the Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Dodd and Schumer Fanny/Freddie mess, I would have said McCain.

As noted, many of these people are economic and not social conservatives. Many live life styles right on the credit line edge and on as much as their home value went up. That has changed since September.

Some of our younger relatives in exurbs say there is a lot white guilt and anti Palin due to so many of the women with past abortions. Of course that might change when they are in the voting booth.

9/11, the market rebound after 9/11 and the increases in home values helped GW carry the exurbs in 2004. It is amazing how few of these people who were concerned about family safety after 9/11 are concerned about the danger Obama could bring into their life and their families. They ignore the warnings that the Rat Congress and Obama could convert their 401ks into more worthless IOUS.

The good thing about most of the exurbs out here is the failure of the rat fishwraps to have any real impact. Dish and Direct tv rule instead of cable, and that seems to dilute the liberal rantings on ABCNNBCBS.

One danger point for Obama is his future taxes. With high mortgage and property tax deductions, plus 401k deductions, a tax increase on incomes over 250k didn’t impact many.

However as Obama and Biden keep lowering that to maybe 150k, some of these people are starting to wake up. Also, many were not aware that Obama was going to let GW’s tax breaks expire in 2010. Those two combos and some healthy market gains up to election day might bring some of these economic republicans back into the fold.


7 posted on 10/28/2008 3:58:16 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Does ObaMao have any friends, who are not foriegn or domestic terrorists,or religious terrorists?)
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“Fast-growing “exurbs” like Henderson, commuter towns outside the traditional suburban belts surrounding cities”

Moron.

Many exurbs are self-contained, with their own vibrant businesses and communities so people don’t need to “commute.” Businesses move to the exurbs because that’s where the stable labor force is. It’s the big liberal cities that are dying, with their high taxes, crime, anti-family attitudes, corrupt politicians, bureaucratic oppression and high costs.

This writer is probably too stupid to know, but not many people “commute” to Detroit from the surrounding exurbs.


8 posted on 10/28/2008 6:28:03 PM PDT by sergeantdave (We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
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The Metropolitan Institute study: http://www.mi.vt.edu/data/files/mi%20election%20briefs/election%20brief%20oct%2008.pdf


9 posted on 10/28/2008 6:36:51 PM PDT by mrsmith
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