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Help needed identifying Vichy Republicans.
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Posted on 10/26/2008 7:41:48 PM PDT by padre35

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To: WilliamReading; mick
Re: Coolidge's appointment, John Davis:

"He won the nomination in 1924 as a compromise candidate on the one hundred and third ballot. His denunciation of the Ku Klux Klan and his prior defense of black voting rights as Solicitor General under Wilson cost him votes in the South and among conservative Democrats elsewhere. He lost in a landslide to Calvin Coolidge, who did not leave the White House to campaign."

"Davis was a member of the National Advisory Council of the Crusaders, an influential organization that promoted the repeal of prohibition. He was the founding President of the Council on Foreign Relations, formed in 1921, and a trustee of the Rockefeller Foundation from 1922 to 1939"

61 posted on 10/26/2008 8:39:12 PM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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To: padre35

I agree with you that was just my way of saying it, if a publication or other media source employ this Vichy trash then I will not buy or watch their product.


62 posted on 10/26/2008 8:39:32 PM PDT by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: padre35
Frank Luntz
63 posted on 10/26/2008 8:40:03 PM PDT by GinaLolaB (=^..^=)
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To: outofstyle

As the PUMA’s have discovered, “party” often times does not equal “principle”.

Reagan made it clear where he stood long before any sort of election, Joe Liebermann made it plain where he stood before this election.

It is a singularly Vichy trait to try and pile on when it appears the Election is no longer in doubt.


64 posted on 10/26/2008 8:41:13 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: ansel12

Name me one Republican who ran for President who was a conservative before Goldwater. As I mentioned before, Harding , Coolidge and Hoover were all members of the Progressive or liberal wing of the GOP.

Coolidge was indeed conservative, but less conservative than John Davis who was even more so.

Blacks always voted the most liberal ticket since they got the vote in 1866. They voted solid Republican until 1936, but the GOP routinely got 40+ percent of the black vote until 1964.


65 posted on 10/26/2008 8:41:41 PM PDT by WilliamReading
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To: padre35
Keep in mind though, Scoop Jackson Dems were very Socially Conservative, but fiscally very liberal especially when it came to funding the military.

Scoop Jackson was the populist son of Finnish Leftists who was a believer in Wilsonian Messianism, and whose only redeeming quality was being pro-2nd Amendment. They were more interested in economic justice than anything else, although Scoop himself was center-left in his voting on domestic social and regulatory issues (especially the environment).

66 posted on 10/26/2008 8:42:20 PM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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To: padre35
Peggy Noonan has been "assimilated" into Manhattan culture for some time, so it was only a matter of moments until she switched sides.

I am more upset about Christopher Buckley, whose writings I've always enjoyed. Thankfully, Tom Wolfe is still a McCain supporter.

67 posted on 10/26/2008 8:43:54 PM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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To: GinaLolaB

Frank Luntz....hmm...he is just a sort of goofy pollster, and he has not made it a mission to join Obama and hurt McCain and Palin.

Now someone who is on the bubble is Newt Gingrich...not so sure about him, he appears to be trying to play both ends against the Conservatives...

And I’m on Newt’s email list, but he has made it a point to say again and again “Sarah Palin takes the experience issue off of the table”.

that is unwise and unpolitic.


68 posted on 10/26/2008 8:44:13 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: WilliamReading

That was a yes, right?


69 posted on 10/26/2008 8:44:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ( When a conservative pundit mocks Wasilla, he's mocking conservatism as it's actually lived.)
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To: padre35
After McCain wins, I think we should round them all up, shave their heads,and publicly humiliate them like the French did to the whores who slept with Nazis.




70 posted on 10/26/2008 8:45:06 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.)
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To: WilliamReading

Ike was surprisingly Conservative.


71 posted on 10/26/2008 8:46:00 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: Arguendo

I think its spot on.

These turncoats deserve to be blasted in the strongest language possible. I have much more colorful names for them, but I don’t wish to be banned here.


72 posted on 10/26/2008 8:47:32 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine ("Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen.)
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To: padre35

Ike was no way a conservative, very middle of the road. Ike gave us the liberal Warren Court. I think the top tax rate during the Eisenhower administration was 80 percent.

The conservative Republican during that era was Robert Taft, but he was never able to get the Republican nomination.


73 posted on 10/26/2008 8:48:04 PM PDT by WilliamReading
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To: Arguendo
This rhetoric seems a little over the top.

I don't. "You're either with us, or against us" in the face of the Marxist revolution from within!

74 posted on 10/26/2008 8:48:28 PM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: padre35; WilliamReading
Ike was to the right of his opponent in the convention, Robert Taft, but was running against a genteel Illinois socialist whose father had run on the ticket of a certain fire breathing populist named William Jennings Bryant.

Withdrawing from the messianic policy of Roosevelt and Truman, balancing the federal budget (cutting spending in the process), and sending the illegals back south were but three achievements we can thank Ike for.

75 posted on 10/26/2008 8:48:56 PM PDT by Clemenza (PRIVATIZE FANNIE AND FREDDIE! NO MORE BAILOUTS!)
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To: padre35
I was referring to this vanity posted about Frank Luntz on FR the other day.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2115019/posts
76 posted on 10/26/2008 8:49:08 PM PDT by GinaLolaB (=^..^=)
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To: padre35
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_100308/content/01125107.member.html

This was Fred Barnes on Oct. 3, 08
(Right when House Republicans needed as much support as possible to derail the Fannie Mae Bailout Bill)

RUSH: Let's go to some of the audio sound bites (we have three of them, here) on the bailout just to set the stage here. This is last night on Special Report with Brit Hume during panel discussion. Brit asked Fred Barnes a question. "Fred, you're not sympathetic to the Senate and the House of Representatives, the noises coming from conservatives in the House, give me your thoughts on the quality of their arguments."

BARNES: I think their arguments are -- are idiotic. And myopic. It's as if they're operating from some ideology that says, "We cannot interfere with the free market by having government do more." Ronald Reagan would do this. Alexander Hamilton did it. When you have a financial crisis that threatens to blow up the economy and put America in a deep recession or worse, that's when government's supposed to act. Now, if you're a Libertarian and you don't believe in government, that's something, but most Republicans are not Libertarians. They're just nuts.

77 posted on 10/26/2008 8:50:28 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all.)
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To: WilliamReading

Ik epurged the Government of homosexuals and had -0- problem deporting illegals under “Operation Wetback” and instituting the Bracero system for Green Cards, hold a green card and hang out with illegals and you got the boot!

He also took the step of recognizing the Blacks were full Soldiers, he put teeth into Truman’s integration plans.

Ike had watched the black soldiers fight hard during the battle of the bulge when everyman available was sent to fight, Blacks were deemed unreliable, Ike saw that myth dispelled.


78 posted on 10/26/2008 8:51:29 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: Clemenza

oops, Taft was way more conservative than Eisenhower. Eisenhower was not even a Republican before 1952. He almost ran as a Democrat, but decided he liked the GOP better.


79 posted on 10/26/2008 8:51:40 PM PDT by WilliamReading
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To: Arguendo

“Ronald Reagan, Teddy Roosevelt, and Joe Lieberman all rejected their parties. Are they traitors?”


They didn’t align themselves with people who despised and schemed against traditional American values.


80 posted on 10/26/2008 8:52:22 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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