Posted on 10/26/2008 7:41:48 PM PDT by padre35
“The funny thing about the Republican Party. It was always the liberal party from its birth”
Rather than going down that road of definitions, have the republicans ever been the more conservative candidate than the democrat presidential candidate?
Maybe "useful idiots" then?
I’m glad you like the idea, and if you know of anyone who belongs on the Vichy Republican list, by all means, nominate them and if you can provide links to the reasons why.
this is not about Padre35 holding a grudge, this is about holding people accountable, be they columnists or pundits or what have you.
Best,
Chris
www.philly.com/philly/blogs/the-insider/Smerconish_says_hes_for_Obama. html
He is now.
Sarah talking about her Alaskan Coat on another tread prompted me to post some of Nixon’s “Checkers Speech”. Here is an apt excerpt for this thread. (By the way - I have been tempted to wear my “Nixon - Now More than Ever” button!)
It brings tears to my eyes to think of what Nixon did and where we are just 9 days with a communist running 50% of the vote:
“Now, let me say this: I know that this is not the last of the smears. .....Well, they just don’t know who they’re dealing with. I’m going to tell you this: I remember in the dark days of the Hiss case some of the same columnists, some of the same radio commentators who are attacking me now and misrepresenting my position were violently opposing me at the time I was after Alger Hiss......
And as far as this is concerned, I intend to continue the fight.
Why do I feel so deeply? .....And I want to tell you why. Because, you see, I love my country. And I think my country is in danger......
Take Communism. I say that as far as that subject is concerned, the danger is great to America. In the Hiss case they got the secrets which enabled them to break the American secret State Department code.....
And I say that the only man who can lead us in this fight to rid the Government of both those who are Communists and those who have corrupted this Government is Eisenhower, because Eisenhower, you can be sure, recognizes the problem and he knows how to deal with it....
But just let me say this last word. Regardless of what happens I’m going to continue this fight. I’m going to campaign up and down America until we drive the crooks and the Communists and those that defend them out of Washington.”
That is not what some of them are planning Section 9, Brooks for example sees 15 years of unified Democrat DC.
yes of course, but only since 1964.
A lot of people actually thought Jimmy Carter was more conservative than Gerald Ford. Ford was very pro-abortion and nominated liberal judges to the Supreme Court (Justice Stevens). He was a country club Republican, not a conservative.
Nixon was a moderate, with no real ideology. He brought in price controls on the economy.
“this is not about Padre35 holding a grudge, this is about holding people accountable, be they columnists or pundits or what have you.”
It is about not spending our money for their product. I want to know who they are so that I can avoid their retailers.
Good quote. Thanks
that is a moving story 21twelve, seriously.
Update to the Vichy Republican cabal:
“Colin Powell
William Weld
Scott McClellan
Freid
Adelman
David Brooks
Doug Kmeic
George Will
David Frum
Peggy Noonan”
Chris Buckley, now you have found your real home.
So in your mind every election in which the democrat defeated the republican, at least before 1964, it was the more conservative candidate winning?
Actually, the Democrat who ran against Coolidge was much more of a conservative. I can’t remember his name now, but he was against racial integration and was for low taxes as well.
Harding was definitely more liberal than Cox, who was also a bit of a reactionary. Hoover was part of the progressive, liberal wing of the GOP. FDR ran to Hoover’s right in 1932, and didn’t become full blown liberal until 1936.
Southrons tend to believe that their big spending, income tax supporting Dixiecrats were "conservative." Sorry, but McKinley, Taft, Grant, Roosevelt (relatively speaking), and Lodge, etc. were more conservative than Wilson, Bryant, FDR et al. It was the Dems who pushed for Fiat Money, the income tax and "justice for the working man."
The GOP had a liberal NEern wing and a conservative western/midwestern wing that were united against the national welfare state of FDR. Dems have been a socialist/populist party since Grover Cleveland (the LAST conservative Dem President).
Well, it is not money per se, it is about finding actual Conservative writers and thinkers that have stood by us through thick and thin.
For example, skip Vichy Noonan for Michele Malkin.
“But” we need a different Catholic thinker to take Noonan’s place.
Being a Southron racist does not make you a conservative. Pitchfork Ben Tilman and Tom Watson were practically socialists.
Abandonment of principle is the issue. Bailing on the Republican Party may be understandable. Embracing Obama is not. It is true that Reagan, Roosevelt and Lieberman all rejected their parties. They did not however, embrace The National Socialists, The Communist Party, or the party of Obama.
Seems fitting, at least if these “Republicans” are expecting some kind of reward for their endorsement.
Clemenza, I’m happy you added to the discussion.
Keep in mind though, Scoop Jackson Dems were very Socially Conservative, but fiscally very liberal especially when it came to funding the military.
Sorry to ask, but do you have anyone that can replace Vichy Republican Peggy Noonan?
At one time she was passionate and centered, those days are gone.
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