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To: Corazon
The real truth, dear friends, is that a great majority of Americans want communism

He's right about that much.

This is the great problem of representative government. What happens when the people themselves want evil? Should the will of the people be supreme even following it results in the destruction of the nation?

8 posted on 10/26/2008 3:20:30 PM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: B-Chan
Correction: A majority of Americans want government to take care of them. That's a very seductive proposition. Why settle for the responsibilities of adulthood when you can enjoy an eternal childhood? The Democrats are promising people an escape from all their problems. And why not?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

12 posted on 10/26/2008 3:24:41 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: B-Chan; Corazon
Should the will of the people be supreme even following it results in the destruction of the nation?

Democracy is a tool. Its how we sort out our differences. It doesn't decide who is right, its just a mechanism for sorting out which way we will go while the true battle continues. Democracy just means you have to persuade your neighbor. Its frustrating when your neighbor doesn't listen to reason, but it doesn't absolve you of the requirement to go on persuading him.

In the end, reality always gets a vote. And the struggle between right and wrong never ends. No victory and no defeat is ever final. You never get to take a holiday for very long.

The only difference, in some countries these struggles work themselves out with bloodshed, and in some with ballots and printers ink. Ballots and printer's ink is better, if you have the choice.

But the war of ideas is fought out on three main public battlefields, and we have abdicated all three. Schools and universities, the news media, and the entertainment media. You can't win the war of ideas when you've given your enemy control of every weapon and every battlefield. Fail to solve that problem and we will go down to defeat. Fail to solve that problem and we've brought defeat upon ourselves.

17 posted on 10/26/2008 3:33:56 PM PDT by marron
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To: B-Chan
"This is the great problem of representative government. What happens when the people themselves want evil? Should the will of the people be supreme even following it results in the destruction of the nation?"

I had this exact discussion with my brother in law when i was in Taiwan last week. He is believing that a representative government may not be the best form of government because the electorate just isn't informed enough.

19 posted on 10/26/2008 3:37:09 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: B-Chan

I don’t believe that most Americans want communisium. The first rule in their playbook is make them think anything they say is true.


24 posted on 10/26/2008 3:44:05 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: B-Chan
The real truth, dear friends, is that a great majority of Americans want communism

He's right about that much.

No, he's not. The great majority of America is conservative. All that is necessary to engage them is to offer up a Conservative candidate.

35 posted on 10/26/2008 4:02:07 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit.)
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To: B-Chan
Should the will of the people be supreme even following it results in the destruction of the nation?

In this case, yes.  The people richly deserve a wake up call.  Furthermore, I happen to be a partisan that believes the contract was contigent upon both party agreement.  The question to me is whether we can maintain coherence in a dissolution of the contract, or will we passively go towards rendering it meaningless.

I heard a quote today that for me completely explains the liberal-federal governmental structure:  "When you are dealing with a liar that holds the bigger gun, a written document is completely useless." He was, of course, speaking of our constitution. Fregards

49 posted on 10/26/2008 8:08:34 PM PDT by Harrius Magnus (LIBERALS: We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity.)
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