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O.C. suspicions over Obama's citizenship continue
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Posted on 10/25/2008 3:17:01 PM PDT by dmanLA

Even some supporters of John McCain are dismayed with fellow Orange County Republicans who think Barack Obama was born outside of the U.S. and does not meet the requirements to be president.

An OC Political Pulse poll found that a third of responding Republicans thought Obama was born outside of the 50 United States. One GOP participant then wrote me to say she suspected those results were caused by non-Republicans gaming the poll, presumably to make Republicans look kooky.

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Starting to get more exposure?

Wasn't there a restriction (US passports) on travel to Pakistan when Obama traveled there?

1 posted on 10/25/2008 3:17:02 PM PDT by dmanLA
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To: dmanLA

where there’s smoke, there’s usually fire.


2 posted on 10/25/2008 3:18:00 PM PDT by webschooner (Welcome to the wonderful world of Socialism -- kindly check your money and possessions at the door.)
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To: dmanLA
I have a hard time believing he could have gotten this far if this were true. Still...


3 posted on 10/25/2008 3:19:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: dmanLA
One GOP participant then wrote me to say she suspected those results were caused by non-Republicans gaming the poll, presumably to make Republicans look kooky.

That's OK, I've got my suspicions about those who don't want to look into it.
4 posted on 10/25/2008 3:19:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: cripplecreek

So, where’s the birth certificate, already?
SHOW ME!


5 posted on 10/25/2008 3:29:05 PM PDT by Flintlock
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To: Flintlock

A good advert for Missouri.


6 posted on 10/25/2008 3:30:22 PM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: dmanLA

Obama’s citizenship concerns could be put to rest with a few hours max of legal preparation and a press conference clearing it all up with the required legal documentation, no fuss, no muss. So far he hasn’t done that.


7 posted on 10/25/2008 3:38:07 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: BenLurkin
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8 posted on 10/25/2008 3:41:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: SpaceBar
Obama’s citizenship concerns could be put to rest with a few hours max of legal preparation and a press conference clearing it all up with the required legal documentation, no fuss, no muss. So far he hasn’t done that.

If the Obama figures they aren't losing any votes by not dealing with this, they just won't.

9 posted on 10/25/2008 3:42:30 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: SpaceBar
I live in O.C. Ca. and stopped reading the Register yrs ago because I could see how liberal it was turning. I know a lot school teachers that are voting for Obama I would that they would know better. But like one said “I'm a die heart Dem.” will vote for Obama. He is a real estate agent still said he was voting Obama even when I told him about the bailout deal that had 4.2% for every $100,000 on a mortgage would end up going to two fund that serve ACORN. Can't believe these libs.........
10 posted on 10/25/2008 3:43:53 PM PDT by iloveluci (Once burned you learn, no more Demo rats!)
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
If the Obama figures they aren't losing any votes by not dealing with this, they just won't.

It's starting to get some press so that may change. Besides, they have dealt with it by quietly fighting the lawsuits.
11 posted on 10/25/2008 3:46:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Paying taxes for bank bailouts is apparently the patriotic thing to do. [/sarc])
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To: iloveluci
"I told him about the bailout deal that had 4.2% for every $100,000 on a mortgage would end up going to two fund that serve ACORN."

WTF! Are you sure or making this stuff up.

12 posted on 10/25/2008 3:49:48 PM PDT by Orange1998
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To: SpaceBar

You can email the people in charge of elections and ballots for various states at http://www.fec.gov/pubrec/cfsdd/cfsdd.shtml#Contents

Just click on the state you live in and email them about your concerns for proof of eligibilty for office.


13 posted on 10/25/2008 3:50:50 PM PDT by mombi
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To: dmanLA

American mother.

end of debate.

You may stop wondering.


14 posted on 10/25/2008 3:55:14 PM PDT by TWohlford
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To: Orange1998

No I’m not making it up. I looked in the Library of Congress H.R. 3221 article 1339. They worked this in when they couldn’t get the original 20 billion for ACORN the first time. The American Somaoa thing, StarKist has plants and workers there, Pelosi husband owns large shares in Starkist, headquarters in San Francisco. Obama’s presidency is past frightening it’s unreal, I can’t find words to describe it.


15 posted on 10/25/2008 4:00:15 PM PDT by iloveluci (Once burned you learn, no more Demo rats!)
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To: dmanLA
This stinks of conflict of interest. Please post on every blog on the net and get to Phil Berg.


PLEASE POST TO ALL BLOGS
http://www.sidley.com/ourpeople/Detail.aspx?attorney=1069

16 posted on 10/25/2008 4:06:32 PM PDT by ncfool (ObaBama stands for The New United Socialist State or "TNUSSA")
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To: ncfool
The End of Preclearance as We Knew It: 
How the Supreme Court Transformed Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act 
Peyton McCrary
Christopher Seaman
Richard Valelly 

Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 requires certain jurisdictions with a history of racial discrimination to obtain “preclearance” of proposed electoral changes from the United States Department of Justice or a three-judge panel in the United States District Court for the District of Columbia. This provision, which is set to expire in August 2007, has successfully reduced racial and ethnic discrimination in voting.

The United States Supreme Court determined in a 5–4 decision, Reno v. Bossier Parish School Board, 528 U.S. 230 (2000), that Section 5’s prohibition on the enforcement of electoral changes which have a discriminatory purpose does not apply to electoral changes that were not intended to “retrogress,” or make worse, the position of minority voters. This interpretation upset a long-standing consensus among executive, legislative, and judicial actors that Section 5 prohibited all changes enacted with an unconstitutional discriminatory purpose, not just those which made minority voters worse off.

This Article explains how the Bossier majority dramatically transformed Section 5 and demonstrates, through an empirical analysis of the Justice Department’s Section 5 objection letters, how it significantly weakened the statute’s ability to protect minority voting rights. It concludes by arguing that Congress should amend Section 5 in 2007 to supercede the Bossier decision.

17 posted on 10/25/2008 4:21:15 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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They appear to check candidate eligibility beforehand in the Maldives...

http://doreview.blogspot.com/2008/09/all-six-candidates-declared-eligible-by.html

Six candidates have been declared eligible to contest in the upcoming presidential elections by the Elections Commission, including incumbent President Maumoon Abdul Gayoom – despite discussions within the commission over whether he can stand under the two-term limit in the country's new constitution.

However the final decision on candidates' eligibility will be made by the Supreme Court, which has already received two applications contesting the legality of Gayoom's bid.

Members of the public are also allowed to contest candidacies, but forms must be submitted within three days of the Elections Commission's announcement of candidates.

18 posted on 10/25/2008 4:26:59 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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To: cripplecreek

Obviously McCain can’t bring this up directly. It would be laughed off, called racist, desperate, mean-spirited, etc. However, he could possibly bring it up indirectly by producing his OWN birth certificate and saying that “some have said” that he (McCain) was not an eligible citizen, and, as silly as it may seem, he feels he owes it to the doubters to provide transparency and give them peace with this issue, so here is his proof.” THEN....by default and implication perhaps the Obama birth certificate could come out and he would be pressured to address it. What say you?


19 posted on 10/25/2008 4:29:59 PM PDT by Anima Mundi
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To: Brian S. Fitzgerald
IN the UK:

http://british-house-of-commons.suite101.com/article.cfm/electoral_candidates

Electoral Candidates in the UK

Who is Eligible to Stand in a British General Election?

© Erin Britton

May 23, 2008

In order to be eligible to stand in a British general election, potential candidates must satisfy a number of criteria.

The House of Commons is the elected lower house of the British Parliament and is designed to be representative of the people. Although most adults are eligible to stand in a general election, certain categories of people are ineligible.

Candidate Eligibility

In basic terms, anybody who is a British, Commonwealth or Irish Republic citizen can stand as a candidate in a British general election provided that they are aged 21 or over.

However, eligibility is not quite as clear-cut as it may at first appear since there are in fact several categories of people who are disqualified from sitting in the House of Commons. These categories are:

1. Members of the House of Lords

2. Clergy of the Church of England, Church of Scotland, Church of Ireland and the Roman Catholic Church

3. Undischarged bankrupts

4. Offenders who have been sentenced to more than one year of imprisonment

5. Persons convicted of corrupt practices at elections are disqualified from standing for 7 years

6. People holding offices listed in the House of Commons Disqualification Act 1975 since they must be politically impartial when carrying out their jobs. The included offices are:

Senior civil servants
Judges
Ambassadors
Members of the regular armed forces
Members of the police force
Paid members of the boards of nationalised industries
Government-appointed directors of commercial companies
Directors of the Bank of England

What Happens If a Disqualified Person Successfully Stands In a General Election?

There have been occasional instances where a disqualified person has been elected in a general election. Where a disqualified person has successfully stood for election, that person is unable to take their seat in the House of Commons and their defeated opponent can apply to have the election declared null and void. There are 2 fairly recent occasions where this has occurred:

Tony Benn was the MP for Bristol South East when, in 1960, he inherited a peerage on the death of his father and so was disqualified from membership of the House of Commons. Despite this, Benn stood at the 1961 by-election and was re-elected. His defeated Conservative opponent had the election declared null and void and so was declared the winner. However, the publicity that surrounded all of this led to the Government introducing the Peerage Act 1963 which allowed peers to disclaim their titles and so become eligible to sit in the Commons. Tony Benn promptly disclaimed his peerage, the sitting MP stood down and in the by-election that followed Benn was re-elected.

Despite his serving a fourteen year prison sentence at the time, Bobby Sands was elected as the Republican candidate in the Fermanagh and South Tyrone by-election. Sands was legitimately elected but was unable to sweat the oath of allegiance or take up his seat due to his imprisonment. Sands died on the 9th April 1981 and so the Commons avoided having to decide whether to expel him or not but his election did lead to the Representation of the People Act 1981 which disqualified those serving more than one year in prison from standing for election.

Although certain categories of people are ineligible to stand in a general election, the vast majority of people are eligible to stand for Parliament and this is one of the essential freedoms of British democracy.

References:

McLean, I. and McMillan, A. (2003) The Concise Oxford Dictionary of Politics (2nd Rev Ed.) (Oxford University Press)

Jones, B. et al (2006) Politics UK (6th Ed.) (Longman)

Kingdom, J. (2003) Government and Politics in Britain: An Introduction (3rd Ed.) (Polity Press)

20 posted on 10/25/2008 4:31:11 PM PDT by Brian S. Fitzgerald
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