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1 posted on 10/25/2008 1:48:51 AM PDT by Dajjal
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Intersting excerpt in the judge's reason for dismissal:

“...By extension, the theoretical constitutional harm experienced by voters does not change as the candidacy of an allegedly ineligible candidate progresses from the primaries to the general election.”

If I'm interpreting this correctly, Judge Surrick’s opinion is that if Obama is in fact constitutionally ineligible to hold office of POTUS, then “harm” to voters can only become a reality ONCE HE IS IN OFFICE.

Therefore, no harm exists at this time to voters.

That's almost analogous to stating that “attempted murder” is not a crime, because no one was actually murdered.

145 posted on 10/25/2008 7:50:47 AM PDT by motoman
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Surrick ruled that Berg's attempts to use certain laws to gain standing to pursue his claim that Obama was not a natural-born citizen were "frivolous and not worthy of discussion."

This is code for "Berg is absolutely right, but I don't want to apply the law." Federal Judges often use this language to simply ignore the constitution and the law.

This case will end up in the USSC.

I think there is going to be another revolution if Obama is elected and it is demonstrated he is not eligible.

147 posted on 10/25/2008 7:52:22 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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Well, there’s a shocker.


157 posted on 10/25/2008 8:16:29 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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Always suspected that Berg’s suit was a set-up designed to create a precedent in favor of Obama. It was clear to us in the legal profession that he was going to lose on the standing issue from the beginning.


172 posted on 10/25/2008 8:38:11 AM PDT by Asceticon
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The five-pointed red star, a pentagram without the inner pentagon, is a symbol of communism as well as broader socialism in general. It is sometimes understood to represent the five fingers of the worker's hand, as well as the five continents. A lesser known suggestion is that the five points on the star were intended to represent the five social groups that would lead Russia to communism: the youth, the military, the industrial labourers, the agricultural workers or peasantry, and the intelligentsia. Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels used the red star as a symbol[citation needed]. It was also one of the emblems, symbols, and signals representing the Soviet Union under the rule and guidance of the Communist Party, along with the hammer and sickle. The star has since become a symbol.************************************************ This red star is embedded in obama's materials. He's telling the Americans the truth, if they just know what it means!! Check out his store: http://www.democratnationalcommittee.com/candidates/barack_obama.htm?gclid=COTRgvrYwpYCFQykagodZj8FygtAmericans
187 posted on 10/25/2008 8:57:21 AM PDT by jackv
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The fix is in.


190 posted on 10/25/2008 9:02:54 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg (The GOP may not be the party of "McRomney" after all.)
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f - - k.

If we don’t have standing to question the eligiblity of a candidate, then WHO does? No one?

This country is finished, done for.

I am just sick.


196 posted on 10/25/2008 9:15:07 AM PDT by Danae (Obama = Trickle up Poverty. Don't like it, get ready to be"reeducated" into it if he is elected.)
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The Marxist takeover of the USA is now complete UNLESS WE STOP IT AT THE BALLOT BOX!!!


197 posted on 10/25/2008 9:15:19 AM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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Talk to every voter you know.
Tell them Obama is untested.
We have no idea what to expect except the most liberal views he has.

VOTE VOTE VOTE

We must be more powerful than Acorn!!!

204 posted on 10/25/2008 9:24:45 AM PDT by DaltonNC
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They said that Berg's claims were "ridiculous" and "patently false," that Berg had "no standing" to challenge the qualifications of a candidate for president because he had not shown the requisite harm to himself.

Surrick agreed.

(Intentionally?) sloppy wording. Surrick agreed with the "no standing" argument. He didn't appear to rule on the merits of the citizenship allegations themselves.

IOW, the judge basically ruled that no citizen or group of citizens has the legal right to question the qualifications of a U.S. presidential candidate. It's a "Just WHO do you think you are?" ruling.

I've asked this before, and I haven't seen the answer yet: Who does have standing for such a complaint?

207 posted on 10/25/2008 9:28:09 AM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (The Global Warming Heretic -- http://AGW-Heretic.blogspot.com)
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And if anyone is still wondering how a passport can be obtained without a certified copy of one’s long form, vault copy of a birth certificate, review the requirements at the following link:

http://travel.state.gov/passport/get/first/first_830.html

254 posted on 10/25/2008 10:27:37 AM PDT by motoman
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What I find interesting that this court case was ruled that the plaintiff had “no standing” in his arguement. Yet, Hussein flies out to Hawaii to in a very untimely fashion under a false excuse.

Perhaps these suits have forced Hussein’s hand; perhaps that is one of the goals of these suits (especially the ones in PA and HI).

Hussein’s trip to HI means that there is more to this.

Stay tuned.


257 posted on 10/25/2008 10:43:47 AM PDT by TMA62 (TMA62)
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Time to play the tape of Grandma saying she saw the baby being born in K E N Y A.


267 posted on 10/25/2008 11:03:37 AM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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I love how this judge took so long to rule Berg to be without standing and his claims to be "frivolous and not worthy of discussion." If this case was "frivolous", why not dismiss it quickly?
277 posted on 10/25/2008 11:29:29 AM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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How come I suspect that we’re dealing with a CLINTON-APPOINTED judge here?


283 posted on 10/25/2008 12:00:41 PM PDT by Hilda
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Here’s my own pet theory.

o O’s biological father was indeed Frank Marshall Davis.

o However, a man—a black man and a prominent communist—who impregnated a 17 year old—a white 17 year old no less—within the borders of the US would have risked prison as a statutory rapist. I have no doubt that the authorities of the day would have relished the opportunity to put Davis away for what would have been regarded as a scandalous combination of statutory rape and miscegenation. This was 1961.

o Somehow, then, BO Sr. was brought into the picture, perhaps specifically to present a Kenyan staging for the conception and/or birth.

o BO Sr. stuck around long enough to get whatever quid pro quo and to confer his name upon infant BO Jr. Whether the bun popped out of the oven in Kenya or Hawaii remains in question. A birth in Kenya actually makes sense, since it would have further forestalled prosecutory interest in the impregnation of a 17-year-old.

o Davis, as we know, returned as a father figure in O’s life thanks to the efforts of Dunham’s parents. Why?

The conjunction of BO Sr., Dunham’s parents and Davis would seem to be the Rosetta Stone of The Messiah’s ancestry.

Who are the Dunhams?


285 posted on 10/25/2008 12:05:21 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast ([In the primaries, vote "FOR". In the general, vote "AGAINST". ...See? Easy.])
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We need to go after Soros. He is a big, big problem along with whoever the powers that be are.


308 posted on 10/25/2008 2:39:42 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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This is total BS! I am absolutely disgusted. The fix is in folks, if we weren’t sure of it before we can be now.

This election is our last illusion of having any power whatsoever.


313 posted on 10/25/2008 2:59:49 PM PDT by BootsOfEscaping
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If this part of the Constitution is irrelevant, than which other parts are irrelevant too? How do we know what is still valid and what isn’t?


319 posted on 10/25/2008 3:49:24 PM PDT by April Lexington (I'm voting for McCain in 2008 and Jefferson Davis in 2012)
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