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Rick Warren endorses Prop 8 (California Same Sex Marriage Ban)
National Review ^ | 10/24/08 | Maggie Gallagher

Posted on 10/24/2008 8:11:49 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat

In his e-mail to his church members he writes: "For 5,000 years, every culture and every religion - not just Christianity - has defined marriage as a contract between men and women,” Warren wrote. “There is no reason to change the universal, historical definition of marriage to appease 2% of our population.”

On the Saddleback site there is video of him discussing the issue, here.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca2008; christianvote; evangelicals; gay; homosexualagenda; marriage; megachurch; pastor; protectmarriage; rickwarren; saddleback
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Rick Warren is not my cup of tea...he has done plenty to earn my criticism...but I give kudos to him for taking a public stand on this issue.

Let's hope this passes in California, and maybe give McCain a boost in the Golden State, too. (I can dream, can't I?)

1 posted on 10/24/2008 8:11:49 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Good for Rick!


2 posted on 10/24/2008 8:13:58 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

There was a woman on the Bill O’Reilly show tonight saying how many large corporations such as Comcast and AT&T have donated $$$$ to defeated this amendment.


3 posted on 10/24/2008 8:15:50 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (If McCain loses I'm moving to Alaska!!!!)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I am glad he is making this stand.

Thank you, Rick Warren!


4 posted on 10/24/2008 8:15:59 PM PDT by Shelayne (Pray without ceasing. Pray the Lord's Hand in our election process.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Homosexual marriage is not about the freedom for some to live as they want—because they are now free to do that-—but it is about forcing an ideology on people who do not want it.

Is is about the government forcing people to live AGAINST their consciences!

It is a matter of taking away the rights of the majority of people, to secure a privilege for a small minority of people, who can secure that their partnership by other means.

It is a matter of destroying the right of religions——not just Christianity by the way-—to teach morality in the way they see fit-—the right of freedom of speech, for people to speak out on issues they hold dear to their hearts-—and Parental rights-—the right to raise your children to share your own morals and values.

It is a matter of taking away the freedom of Americans to think, feel and define their own morality, and define their own communities, their own government; ON the grounds that the GOVERNMENT will now define the doctrines and precepts of religious organizations.

Homosexual marriage gives the government the right to intrude their powers in the area of anciently held and practiced religious doctrines—and to restrain these doctrines, destroys all religious liberty!


5 posted on 10/24/2008 8:17:09 PM PDT by tuckrdout (~ 'Daily example is the most subtle of poisons.' ~)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Good to see Rick Warren take a stand. I wonder how he will react when he is no longer the media’s favorite Evangelical preacher.


6 posted on 10/24/2008 8:18:08 PM PDT by yongin (Regardless of what the polls say, say no to Hussein)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Driving around CA I see lots of yes on 8 signs, and very few no on 8. Prop 8 will pass easily. Gay marriage is over in CA.


7 posted on 10/24/2008 8:19:20 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Hopefully he used some biblical reasons to support this. If it were 52% I hope he wouldn’t be supporting it.


8 posted on 10/24/2008 8:20:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Bravo, Mr. Warren.


9 posted on 10/24/2008 8:23:09 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

I’m usually a critic of Rick Warren, but you have to give him credit for this, and for the first (and best) debate.


10 posted on 10/24/2008 8:24:19 PM PDT by GOPPachyderm
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To: Recovering_Democrat
For 5,000 years, every culture and every religion - not just Christianity - has defined marriage as a contract between men and women,

Except with islam, it can be 1 man and many women...(interesting phrasing of his words...almost clintonian)

11 posted on 10/24/2008 8:25:39 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

“Yes” means No to Gay Marriage and “No” means Yes on this proposition. No wonder California is so screwed up!

I’m using the “Bradley Effect” on this one. I tell everyone that I’m voting No, but I’m really voting “Yes” (against gay marriage..)


12 posted on 10/24/2008 8:26:25 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: tuckrdout
Homosexual marriage is not about the freedom for some to live as they want—because they are now free to do that-—but it is about forcing an ideology on people who do not want it.

Extremely well put!!!!! Thanks for putting your thougths into words.

13 posted on 10/24/2008 8:28:09 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule
I work for a large public corporation that shall remain nameless and I can tell you that the homosexual lobby has corporate America in a headlock. The obsession with race and gender has spawned many opportunities for gays to jump on the bandwagon. Every time you turn around, there's some Diversity Meeting, and Diversity meeting includes gays. A few months ago, our company celebrated Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual/Transgendered Awareness Month. It's truly bizarre. I sense that many black employees are especially offended by this gay stuff, but they really can't say anything because there's so much Black stuff also shoved down our throats at work. And those of us who are NOT some kind of minority can't say a word about the gay stuff. When large public companies in the US are bankrolling efforts against Prop 8, the world really has gone mad. So, good for Rick Warren for speaking out. Let's encourage people like Warren when they have the guts to speak the truth.
14 posted on 10/24/2008 8:29:40 PM PDT by utahagen
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To: HerrBlucher

“Driving around CA I see lots of yes on 8 signs, and very few no on 8. Prop 8 will pass easily. Gay marriage is over in CA.”

I saw a bunch of Hispanics with signs saying Yes on Prop. 8 at a busy intersection on the way home last night. I wasn’t counting, but it had to be at least 15+ people.

I haven’t seen a single “No” sign or even received any mailers (I’m an Independent).

I think the “No’s” are relying on the Internet, word-of-mouth and the Hollywood crowd.


15 posted on 10/24/2008 8:31:22 PM PDT by Beaten Valve
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To: Recovering_Democrat

The way I see it, the case for Optimism in this Election is found in Prop 8, and in Murtha perchance losing and Mrs. Bachmann stepping up and taking an unpopular stand in the media as well as the Maine “no” to a tax increase as well as the MA abolishment of the State Income Tax ballot initiative.

And of course Sarah Palin on the ticket, we have some brightness to work for unlike in 2006.

And good for Rick Warren, for my .02 cents, he did the best job of handling any form of debate this election season.


16 posted on 10/24/2008 8:31:35 PM PDT by padre35 (Sarah Palin is the one we've been waiting for..Rom 10.10..)
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To: HerrBlucher

I’m in worse shape than you...I live deep in the belly of the beast. Hollywood. NO on prop 8 is within a 5 mile radius.


17 posted on 10/24/2008 8:53:46 PM PDT by max americana
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To: Recovering_Democrat

He did the best of all the debates.


18 posted on 10/24/2008 8:58:49 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Yay Rick. I love that part about the 2% of the population, too.


19 posted on 10/24/2008 9:11:58 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Wow, he does realize there are some moral absolutes.


20 posted on 10/24/2008 9:15:15 PM PDT by Godzilla (I am JOE. NO Socialism, NO Obama. I'd rather keep my change and spread it around myself.)
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