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To: Jim Noble

I had a thought the other day, it doesn’t matter where he was born, just that he was the son of an American citizen. That is how the left and the courts are going to rule at this point. I would think that SCOTUS would rule that way in a 5-4 decision. It would be a minor change to immigration law and not to the Constitution.


18 posted on 10/24/2008 4:04:31 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: ClayinVA
It does matter where he was born if only one of his parents was an American citizen. This would obviate jus sanguinis and the law at the time, i.e., 1961. His mother was only 18 and not present in the US for five years after the age of 14.

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child. .

35 posted on 10/24/2008 4:12:14 PM PDT by kabar
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To: ClayinVA

I had a thought the other day, it doesn’t matter where he was born, just that he was the son of an American citizen. That is how the left and the courts are going to rule at this point. I would think that SCOTUS would rule that way in a 5-4 decision. It would be a minor change to immigration law and not to the Constitution.

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True, but he HAD to renounce his American citizenship to be an Indonesian citizen, and there is not even a record of his re-affirming his oath.

Right?


63 posted on 10/24/2008 4:32:22 PM PDT by ROTB (Our Constitution [is] for a [Christian] people. It is wholly inadequate [for] any other. -John Adams)
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To: ClayinVA
I would think that SCOTUS would rule that way in a 5-4 decision.

9-0.

66 posted on 10/24/2008 4:35:02 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered...the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph)
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To: ClayinVA

I had a thought the other day, it doesn’t matter where he was born, just that he was the son of an American citizen. That is how the left and the courts are going to rule at this point. I would think that SCOTUS would rule that way in a 5-4 decision. It would be a minor change to immigration law and not to the Constitution.”

When he was born, there were- and still are- segments to being born to an American citizen when born outside the USA.
Stanley Ann did not meet these standards. She was underage as per the Constitution rules at the time.
No matter what, no one can change her age. She got knocked up at 17, and was 18 when she gave birth to Nobama in Kenya. She had to be at least 19 and a citizen in residence of USA for 5 years minimum. I think she had been bouncing around in and out of Canada, also.


86 posted on 10/24/2008 5:00:36 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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