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Posted on 10/23/2008 1:13:24 PM PDT by pissant
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To: Lazlar
Marriage is a contract.
Marriage is much more than a contract. If it is just a contract then a lawyer could be hired to finish out the details of who's what and what's responsibile or required to both parties mutual agreement.
The homosexuals want society's endorsement... even at the point of a gun.
Marriage is a endorsement of the bonding of a man and a woman to carry the values of society, to ensure the next generation and pass these values onto the next generation.
As for a " bull can marry a sheep for all I care."
Animals have no rights nor recognize the rights of other animals. That's why the animals are animals.
To: pissant
Nothing whatever to do with “equality” here, Ellen. You are trying to make the aberrant behavior of homosexuals “equal” to the heterosexual behavior which has been considered normal since man has existed. This only makes sense to you and your ilk.
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posted on
10/23/2008 2:09:42 PM PDT
by
Oldpuppymax
(AGENDA OF THE LEFT EXPOSED)
To: pissant
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posted on
10/23/2008 2:10:11 PM PDT
by
yldstrk
(My heros have always been cowboys--Reagan and Bush)
To: pissant
Ellen has the right to her view. I don’t think she should use her show as a platform. Last time she pulled that she lost.
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posted on
10/23/2008 2:27:48 PM PDT
by
linn37
(Phlebotomists need love too.)
To: Trailerpark Badass
You missed the point. Marriage is a contract. It isn't concerned with reproduction. There's no fertility test in order to get a marriage license. There's no minimum number of children required either.
Marriage is a contract which spells out a collection of rights and responsibilities between the parties. Further homosexuals can still have children legal through scientific means or, in some jurisdictions, adoption.
Your arguments hold no merit when it comes to civil marriage and why a secular government shouldn't care if two men, two women or a man and a woman want to marry.
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posted on
10/23/2008 3:08:44 PM PDT
by
newzjunkey
(CA: YES on PROP 4. *** MCCAIN-PALIN ***)
To: newzjunkey
Children need a father and a father. The primary purpose of marriage is reproduction. No same gender couple can accomplish it. Marriage is about adult responsibility to the next generation. That is why it is has been always restricted to a man and a woman. Who is going to further the future of society if marriage is made completely optional, just another lifestyle choice? And do we really want children subjected to a vast and untested social experiment, the consequences of which no one can fully foresee? Never mind the questions surrounding parental rights and religious conscience. That's why California must act to protect traditional marriage for all time.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
10/23/2008 3:51:42 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: RedMonqey
“””Marriage is much more than a contract”””
It can be and should be, but it does not
need the government to get involved
“””The homosexuals want society’s endorsement... “”””
That is exactly why the government should stay out of the marriage business,
The government does not represent society. Why should they ?
They are just some dudes that work for us.
“””And society has a real interest in regulating,
through government, maternity and paternity”””
LOL, Yep. Put them in charge of everything,
even life itself. Government knows best /sarc
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posted on
10/23/2008 3:57:14 PM PDT
by
Lazlar
To: goldstategop
Oops. I meant a father and a mother.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
10/23/2008 3:59:58 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: goldstategop
“””Children need a father and a father”””
Humans need Freedom from your governments.
Freedom is how everything happens best.
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posted on
10/23/2008 4:03:57 PM PDT
by
Lazlar
To: newzjunkey
Further homosexuals can still have children legal through scientific means or, in some jurisdictions, adoption.LOL, no. Those children are still conceived through sexual reproduction. Go back to biology class.
If you think the raising of children, which has traditionally been done through sanctioning the marriage of one man and one woman, is not an appropriate matter for civil society to manage, you're clueless. the fact that no-fault divorce and all the other subsequent assaults on the traditional family structure are already full blown in their effects is a point that supports my position, not yours. But I get your point, our society is so far in the gutter, why not let homos marry?
To: Lazlar
A typo. I meant a father AND a mother. But to the homosexual crowd and the Left, gender is an irrelevant characteristic for the constitution of the family. Opposite pairing up is unneeded to create a family unit, in their world view.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
10/23/2008 6:17:03 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: Trailerpark Badass
If our society is that far down in the gutter, no one should have a problem with polygamy. Or incest or with bestiality. The possible number of combinations to create sexual unions is left up only to the imagination.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
10/23/2008 6:19:38 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: goldstategop
If our society is that far down in the gutter, no one should have a problem with polygamy. Or incest or with bestiality. The possible number of combinations to create sexual unions is left up only to the imagination.I think the only thing they couldn't justify is pedophilia, using the libertarian notion that childen cannot consent. I suppose they can say, well, no we won't push for bestiality because animals cannot give consent, but would animals have consciousness of being violated? I guess they could say it's animal cruelty, but what if the animal is not harmed? I suppose they could say, well, but the animal wouldn't enjoy it, but how would they know that?
But you're right, how can they so blithely mock conservatives' concerns about ultimately normalizing incest and polygamy.
And why do they mock religious polygamy? Would they have a problem with polygamy if it were a bunch of dudes? Or how about a whole gang of gays and bi's of both sexes? How do they logically say that will never be the next step? When they cast aside the traditional definition of marriage, where do they get the basis for the one man-one man/one woman-one woman gay marriage paradigm?
To: Trailerpark Badass
Its the old "slippery slope" argument. Where do you draw the line? Other people have claims that strike people today as bizarre but no less justiciable. You can't limit marriage rights to gays and lesbians only. That's to use their own argument - writing discrimination into the law. Restricting marriage to a man and a woman avoids this problem and its a positive form of discrimination because it benefits the entire society.
"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus
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posted on
10/23/2008 8:46:31 PM PDT
by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
To: goldstategop
Restricting marriage to a man and a woman avoids this problem and its a positive form of discrimination because it benefits the entire society.It also has a pretty iron-clad foundation in the laws of nature, as well.
All homos have is "two people love each other."
What in the world does that matter?
To: pissant
Ellen may be able to slap her girlfriend aroundEww... sit down beside me and tell me more...
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posted on
10/23/2008 10:22:39 PM PDT
by
happygrl
(we are all plumbers now!)
To: RedMonqey
After which, Hollywood started questioning Anne Heche’s sanity.
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posted on
10/24/2008 1:13:33 PM PDT
by
massgopguy
(I owe everything to George Bailey)
To: massgopguy
After which, Hollywood started questioning Anne Heche?s sanity.
Naw.
It's her box office appeal they question. Insanity is status quo in Hollywood.
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