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Brunner Disallows Mismatch Challenges; Voters With Unmatched/Bad/Fictitious Information Get to Vote
Columbus Dispatch via ACE OF SPADES HQ ^ | October 23, 2008 | Ace

Posted on 10/23/2008 9:46:15 AM PDT by PowerPro

Because to require them to cast a provisional ballot until their information can be verified would be to "disenfranchise" them. Or something.

They're not even hiding it now. They're stealing Ohio.

And the polls indicate it is close enough to steal.

(Excerpt) Read more at minx.cc ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: fraud; ohio; stealingelection
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To: LS

What part of “these aren’t provisional ballots” are you not catching?


21 posted on 10/23/2008 10:08:43 AM PDT by PowerPro (McCain/Palin FTW)
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Ohio Brunner Shenanigan ping
22 posted on 10/23/2008 10:10:16 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: RC2

I just called the Ohio SOS and asked if provisional ballots were being used on mismatched information and I was assured that they were. I informed them of reports that stated otherwise, and I wanted to get my information straight. Who knows. . .


23 posted on 10/23/2008 10:11:14 AM PDT by Clump (the tree of liberty is withering like a stricken fig tree)
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To: LS

Sounds like Ohio is not using provisional ballots for registrations with data mismatches, even though that’s what they were created for, in part.


24 posted on 10/23/2008 10:12:09 AM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: boxerblues; Post Toasties; PowerPro; CPT Clay; Bryan24
Ok, looking into this. They were registered with a SS and/or driver's license, then have a different number. So, you register, then in the meantime (OH has 3-year driver's license term) you get a new driver's license. The GOP is trying to force the SoS to provide ALL these new drivers license numbers to all the polls (as I understand that). Honestly, I think that would be damn near impossible.

I'll let you know what I find out.

25 posted on 10/23/2008 10:13:40 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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To: PowerPro

I went and read the Columbus Dispatch article. It says NOTHING about whether the ballots are provisional or not.

If the ballots are provisional, they can still be challenged when they are verified.

If the ballots are normal ballots, it is basically legalized voter fraud.

We need to know whether Brunner is still forcing them to cast provisional ballots.


26 posted on 10/23/2008 10:15:36 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: LS

Please read again - they are NOT going to use provisional - because DOING so would disenfranchise.... er, what he said.

That is what they should do, but the oHIo SOS said NO to them.
Let anyone and everyone vote, no checks what-so-ever.


27 posted on 10/23/2008 10:16:20 AM PDT by shadowspapa (You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.)
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To: PowerPro
QUESTION

WHY HAS NO ONE "WHO WOULD QUALIFY AS HAVING STANDING" NOT RE-FILED ANOTHER SUIT IN OHIO???

WHAT IS THE RNC DOING, STANDING AROUND WITH ITS FINGER UP ITS BUTT???

28 posted on 10/23/2008 10:17:46 AM PDT by Conservative Vermont Vet ((One of ONLY 37 Conservatives in the People's Republic of Vermont. Socialists and Progressives All))
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To: LS

Ohio DL require your SS# so even if your license was renewed your SS would still match up.

Brunner is not supplying the 220,000 names that are questionable to the county officials so that they can even have a heads up on who might be out to commit fraud.

Brunner needs to step down.


29 posted on 10/23/2008 10:19:17 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: LS

Not impossible at all. If in electronic form, the complete list could be transferred easily to all locations. Where necessary, a printed version could also be generated.


30 posted on 10/23/2008 10:20:43 AM PDT by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: boxerblues
Ohio DL require your SS# so even if your license was renewed your SS would still match up.

Not anymore.

31 posted on 10/23/2008 10:27:31 AM PDT by Krodg (Piss be unto him...thanks Old Sarge)
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To: Krodg
From the Ohio DMV

NOTICE: Effective November 19, 2007, individuals who are renewing a current Ohio driver license, Ohio commercial driver license (CDL), or Ohio identification (ID) card will no longer be required to present a Social Security card at an Ohio Bureau of Motor Vehicles (BMV) license agency for verification at the time of renewal.

An Ohio driver license, Ohio CDL, or Ohio ID card, which is current, or has been expired for less than six months, is acceptable without further proof of the applicant’s Social Security number if it has been previously verified in the BMV’s records.

It has been verified already, even though it is not printed on the license anymore, the information is in a database somewhere...this is the information that is not getting to the county elections board, thanks to Brunner
32 posted on 10/23/2008 10:37:09 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: PowerPro

Everybody head to Ohio to vote. Vote early, vote often.


33 posted on 10/23/2008 10:43:01 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Nepolean fries the idea powder)
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To: PowerPro

So she says that if you apply with a bad address, you can vote, but if you don’t check a box that isn’t necessary, you can’t get an absentee ballot.


34 posted on 10/23/2008 10:54:11 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: boxerblues
It has been verified already, even though it is not printed on the license anymore, the information is in a database somewhere... this is the information that is not getting to the county elections board, thanks to Brunner

Any cop in the state can verify the info in seconds, right in the squad car. The cop, of course has permission to do so.

35 posted on 10/23/2008 11:13:18 AM PDT by Skid Marx
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To: Skid Marx

Unlike us lowly pollworkers who will have to let everyone and their frinking brother vote as Jennifer Brunner.....


36 posted on 10/23/2008 11:19:54 AM PDT by boxerblues
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To: boxerblues

I was at a poll worker training last night in Clermont Co. and someone was baiting the instructors concerning early voting and not showing IDs. The instructors where very upset and said they couldn’t speak for the rest of the state, but our County required IDs. They probably stressed provisional ballots more than anything.

BTW, our small county sent out 20,000 absentee ballots this year and we went strong for President Bush.


37 posted on 10/23/2008 12:00:47 PM PDT by Krodg (Piss be unto him...thanks Old Sarge)
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To: Krodg

I went thought the training last week in Lake County, and saw the same things. Our County officials are pretty confident that nothing is going to slip though but watch for some of the more populated counties (Cuyahoga) to have 1 problem after another,they always do.

The media has put such a spin on Ohio and are confusing early voting with actual voting. Early voters here had to vote by absentee ballot and all ballots will be checked against the records before they are counted or even mailed out.

SoS Brunner is not helping and I think most counties are going with what they know will work to guard against voter fraud


38 posted on 10/23/2008 12:31:37 PM PDT by boxerblues
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To: LS

BTW I saw you on C-Span this last weekend.

Military history is kind of my hobby. Retired Army Major and all.


39 posted on 10/23/2008 2:22:53 PM PDT by CPT Clay (Drill ANWR, Personal Accounts NOW ,)
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To: CPT Clay

Good! It’s funny, Gen. Bing West has a new book, and he got exactly the same cover as my 2006 book “America’s Victories.” Really torqued me off.


40 posted on 10/23/2008 2:39:32 PM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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