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Your scenario only works if the 3rd Party voter would not have voted for either Party if the 3rd Party did not exist.

For a statement to be true is has to be true in all cases. If it is false in any case it cannot be true.

If one does not vote then there is no effect on the totals....if one would not have ever voted for either candidate, then there is no effect on the totals...

You are trying to say that if one does not vote for McCain then one has 'in effect' voted for Obama....and since there is no change in Obama's totals there is no effect!

Folks like you accept this 'in effect' BS idea without challenge...you need to think about things a bit more before you parrot them.

[Your scenario only works if the 3rd Party voter would not have voted for either Party if the 3rd Party did not exist.]

For a statement to be true is has to be true in all cases. If it is false in any case it cannot be true. If one does not vote then there is no effect on the totals....if one would not have ever voted for either candidate, then there is no effect on the totals... You are trying to say that if one does not vote for McCain then one has 'in effect' voted for Obama....and since there is no change in Obama's totals there is no effect! Folks like you accept this 'in effect' BS idea without challenge...you need to think about things a bit more before you parrot them.

And you need to stop putting out hot air!

If the 3rd Party did not exist and the person would have voted Republican as a SECOND choice, that 3rd Party candidate has effectively help get the Democrat elected.

We saw this in Fl. when the Green Party took alot of Gore's voters, thus EFFECTIVELY electing Bush instead.

The only question would be which ones would not have voted at all and which ones the Green Party actually took from Gore.

Facts are stubborn things.

You are trying to say that if one does not vote for McCain then one has 'in effect' voted for Obama....and since there is no change in Obama's totals there is no effect!

No, what I am saying is that if one WOULD have voted for McCain and votes for a 3rd Party instead, that 3rd Party has effectively helped the Democrats.

So, the fact is, if the 3rd Party draws on those voters who would NOT otherwise vote for the two major Parties, it is NOT effecting the outcome of the race.

If the 3rd Party does draw votes from those who WOULD otherwise vote in the other Parties, it IS effecting the outcome of the race.

That is the true statement, yours was incomplete and therefore false.