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It Matters. Constitutionally, when he was born in 1961, his mother would have had to live in the USofA for 5 years AFTER her 16th birthday for her baby to be a NATURAL BORN US Citizen. She was 18 when he was born. She didn’t qualify, he is ONLY a US Citizen IF he was born in the USofA and IF he reapplied for US Citizenship through NATURALIZATION because he was ADOPTED by Lolo Soetoro and given Indonesian Citizenship so that he could attend school in Jakarta, Indonesia (they only allow Indonesian Citizens to attend school).

So Barry’s LEGAL FATHER is not Obama Senior, it’s Lolo Soetoro. Barry’s LEGAL NAME is Barry Soetoro. His birth father is not his legal father. Yet he wrote (or Ayers wrote for him) a book about his “sperm donor” father.

When Lolo adopted Barry, ANY records in Hawai’i were SEALED. He lost his US Citizenship. He MIGHT have been able to convince the Courts that he wanted US Citizenship back IF HE WAS BORN IN THE USofA after the age of 18 had he filed with the US Courts (Hawai’i, probably). BUT, at the age of 19/20, he applied for a Passport to go to Pakistan using his Indonesian Birth Certificate. By THAT ACT, he declared himself an Indonesian Citizen and NOT a US Citizen.

How do we know he used his Indonesian BC? Pakistan, in 1981 was under Martial Law and NO US Citizens were allowed to visit. Barry’s books clearly state he visited unknown persons and his college roommates (who were Muslim) during his visit to Pakistan in 1981 during his “round the world tour.”

There is documentation from Barry’s Kenyan Grandmother that she and another female relative were in the hospital in Kenya when Barry was born. Jerome Corsi was deported by Kenya because he was investigating Barry’s Kenyan birth.

Raila Odinga and Barry Obama are using the same play-book to wrest control of their respective governments. Expect similar riots with banners saying “No Barack, No Peace” as major cities are trashed by Obamabots. That play-book? Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals.

John McCain was born to two US citizens on a US Naval Base in Panama when Panama was under US Control. THAT designates him a Naturalized US Citizen.

THAT designates him a Naturalized US Citizen.

Correction: That desidgnates him a Natural Born Citizen.

My fingers were typing slower than my brain could think. Or the other way around.

I think you are making the case that he is not even a citizen now.

But oddly, he may have been when born if you use current citizenship law applied to 1961.

I followed you until your last paragraph about McCain. If McCain was born to two U.S. citizens on the moon he is a “natural-born” citizen. You are either “natural-born” or “naturalized,” despite the claims of some (even here on FR) to invent a third category. Naturalization is a process by which people born as citizens of some other country acquire U.S. citizenship; that doesn't apply to McCain.