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FEC joins call to throw out suit against Obama (Berg's challenge of BHO's citizenship)
The Morning Call (Allentown, PA) ^ | 10/22/08 | Kevin Amerman

Posted on 10/23/2008 7:18:55 AM PDT by Born Conservative

The Federal Election Commission has joined Barack Obama and the Democratic National Committee in asking a federal judge to dismiss a lawsuit filed by a Montgomery County attorney seeking Obama's ouster from the November ballot.

Philip Berg, who claims the Illinois senator was born in Kenya and can't run for president because he isn't a natural-born U.S. citizen, has no standing to make the claim, according to the FEC.

The motion, filed Tuesday in U.S. District Court in Philadelphia, echoes one filed last month by Obama and the DNC that states Berg hasn't demonstrated how he personally would suffer even if his ''ridiculous and patently false'' claims were true.

(Excerpt) Read more at mcall.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: antichrist; bc; berg; bergvobama; birthcertificate; certifigate; fec; lawsuit; marines; obama; obamatruthfile; philipberg
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To: MEGoody
Go ahead and waste your time trying to get a judge to say Obama can't run for President. I'll be spending my time attacking him on the issues as THAT is the only thing that can stop him from becoming President.

BTW, why do you think Nobama is heading out for Hawaii today to visit Granny???

It seems there quite a few others than we who differs with your opinions!!!:

Lawsuits Starting Across the Nation Proceeding to Avert Potential Constitutional Crisis, Possible Civil Unrest, and Confidence in Elections; Lawsuits are being filed in Eight States Seeking to Require Barack Obama to Provide Certification of Birth in U.S. Or Be Removed as Presidential Candidate on State Ballots.

Seattle WA. 10/22/2008 — Lawsuits in eight states as of this writing– Hawaii, Washington, California, Florida, Georgia. Pennsylvania, New York and Connecticut, are seeking judicial authority to force the certifying or decertifying of Senator Barack Obama’s qualification to run as a candidate for President as a natural born U.S. Citizen. Previously, two lawsuits have failed to force the certifying documents from Obama.

Philip Berg’s months-long lawsuit in Federal Court in Philadelphia reached a dramatic plateau yesterday as Mr. Obama and the Democratic National Committee (DNC) failed to respond to the court that Mr. Obama is not a natural born U.S. Citizen and therefore not qualified to run for office of President of the U.S. They admitted to Obama’s non-qualification by their failure to respond to a 30-day court ordered discovery in which Obama and the DNC were ordered to answer a petition by Berg. Berg is a lifelong Democrat in the Pennsylvania Democratic Party who has sought to ratchet up the legal pressure as Obama and the DNC has continually delayed providing certifying documentation of Obama’s birth, which he claims to have been in Hawaii.

A lawsuit in Honolulu in the First District Court is seeking a court-order to open Obama’s secret birth records. Obama has thus far neglected a Freedom of Information request for the records at two hospitals in Hawaii. Lawsuits in Washington and Georgia are seeking state Superior Courts to force the states’ Secretary of State, as the chief state elections officer, to perform their state constitutional duties to require original certifying birth records from Mr. Obama that would verify his birth in Hawaii.

Article II, Section 1 of the U.S. Constitution reads: ““No Person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.”

There are numerous allegations to Obama’s claim of natural birth in the U.S. On the web and in the media, all raising suspicion and doubt as to Obama’s actual place of birth and qualification to run for president. Some of the assertions to which Obama “admitted” on Berg’s suit are: he was born in Mombassa, Kenya in 1961 while his mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, was married to Barack Obama Sr., a Kenyan; when his mother, divorced from Obama Sr, moved to Indonesia and married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian, Obama was adopted by Soetoro and became an Indonesian citizen; while in Indonesia, Obama had his name changed to Barry Soetoro; Obama traveled to Pakistan in 1981 under an Indonesian passport when Pakistan was a no travel zone for Americans; Obama had “admitted” to receiving illegal contributions in his campaign for president. Additionally, there is an allegation that Obama’s Kenyan grandmother claims that Obama was born in Kenya; Muammar Gadhafi, leader of Libya, has publicly claimed that Obama was born in Kenya and studied in Muslim schools in Indonesia. Obama has also “admitted” to hold citizenship in another country (the U.S. Constitution forbids dual citizenship).

Non-partisan and independent reviews and examinations of Obama’s birth certificate as shown on his official website has evidence of tampering and in any case does not list any of the points of information commonly found which would make it traceable and verifiable such as hospital, doctor, size weight, foot prints etc.

Interestingly, all these state lawsuits would be dropped if Mr. Obama would simply provide the requested documents supporting his claim of being born in Hawaii.

Lawsuits in additional states are being added each day. For more information about each lawsuit, contact:

201 posted on 10/23/2008 1:12:37 PM PDT by danamco
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To: Dead Corpse
Vetted? Got link?

www.obamacrimes.com

202 posted on 10/23/2008 1:17:00 PM PDT by danamco
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To: MEGoody
Oh, right. Because she was 18 when she had him, it matters. The fact that she was a U.S. citizen (natural born I might add) doesn't matter.

YES, she would have had to 1- have him in the USofA (Hawai'i or any of the other 49) and 2- had to have lived in the USofA 5 years AFTER she turned 16 before she had a baby for that baby to be considered Natural Born. She didn't live in the USofA but 4 years after she turned 16 before she birthed Barry. And we're not sure she even birthed him IN the USofA.

And I don't think Maya qualifies as Natural Born, IF she had her in Hawai'i, because she lived in Indonesia prior to her birth.

It's always the little foxes that destroy the vine. You go counter the big ones, but it'll be the little ones that provide the opening for Truth, Justice and The American Way.
203 posted on 10/23/2008 1:26:19 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (All You Need is Money [Soros] and a Candidate Who Can Be Coached to Look Sincere [Obama]. A. Huxley)
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To: danamco
meh... I've seen all that. ME was saying that the case was already tossed out. But then won't provide a link to said info.

Unless he just meant "vetted by an Obama supporting parasite paralegal and found to have no legs because we didn't want to find any"...

204 posted on 10/23/2008 1:26:20 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: MEGoody
Do you think "President" Nobama should have security clearance???

Look here: http://www.danielpipes.org/article/5983

Take a short look to the right of the site, you will find his Indonesian school registration posted, hmmm!!!

205 posted on 10/23/2008 1:33:05 PM PDT by danamco
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To: MEGoody
All along I thought the argument hinged on what the constitution says. That hasn't changed.

The Constitution says natural born. Article I, Section 8 gives Congress the power to "establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization," which would of course include defining the circumstances that constitute natural born vs. someone who must be naturalized.

206 posted on 10/23/2008 1:45:27 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: CT-Freeper
Not that I agree at all with the FEC, but standing is quite an important element of a lawsuit, according to the Rules of Civil Procedure.
Standing, schmanding - just file a class action lawsuit on behalf of every American citizen!

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207 posted on 10/23/2008 1:50:52 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (We come to FR to pool our skepticism.)
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To: MEGoody

And they where right, The kid belongs to the surviving parent.


208 posted on 10/23/2008 1:56:45 PM PDT by omega4179 (Stop Hussein Vote McCain!)
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To: Lloyd227
how on earth could Berg not have standing?

I've gone on in some detail on other threads about this, but here is the short version. Standing, as it relates to this matter, is a constitutional requirement. It stems from Article III's requirement that the federal judiciary hear only "cases and controversies."

In order to have standing, a plaintiff must demonstrate individual and particularized injury that differs from the injury suffered by the public at large. Berg's problem is that his injury is the exact same injury that everyone else in America has: the "injury" of being offended that constitution may be violated, or, perhaps, the inability to vote for the candidate of his choice. That's also the same injury suffered by the public at large.

Because Berg can't show that his injury is different than that of the public, he doesn't have standing.

209 posted on 10/23/2008 1:57:49 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Lloyd227
how on earth could Berg not have standing?

I've gone on in some detail on other threads about this, but here is the short version. Standing, as it relates to this matter, is a constitutional requirement. It stems from Article III's requirement that the federal judiciary hear only "cases and controversies."

In order to have standing, a plaintiff must demonstrate individual and particularized injury that differs from the injury suffered by the public at large. Berg's problem is that his injury is the exact same injury that everyone else in America has: the "injury" of being offended that constitution may be violated, or, perhaps, the inability to vote for the candidate of his choice. That's also the same injury suffered by the public at large.

Because Berg can't show that his injury is different than that of the public, he doesn't have standing.

210 posted on 10/23/2008 1:57:53 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Born Conservative

I am beyond my wits end!!! Fraud, coverups, suppression of information, non-disclosure, eating lobster, caviar, and drinking champagne.
Just about all available, at least circumstantial(very very compelling circumstantial), evidence is pointing to this, according to his grandmother,Kenyan-born Luo Tribesman, NOT BEING ELIGIBLE TO EVEN RUN FOR PRESIDENT!!! And now the last bastion to guard against this communist from getting elected, and they and the DNC are pressuring the courts to toss the case out?!?!If we permit this to happen our country is beyond dead!


211 posted on 10/23/2008 2:01:52 PM PDT by belgrade1861
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To: Mr. K

Come on! This is such palpable nonsense. Visiting a sick grandmother, who’s white, when he holds in abject and utter contempt the very white idiots who are dumb enough to vote for him?
In reference to being called to task to produce paperwork which we know doesn’t exist, I’m not a betting man but I’d cover dime that whence his return from Hawaii, with sloppy, phony, maudlin tripe over his grandmother, he’ll magically produce the documents out of his hip pocket.
FALSIFYING RECORDS DAMMITT!!! THAT’S WHAT HE’S DOING OVER THERE!!! WHY WON’T ANYONE SAY IT?!?


212 posted on 10/23/2008 2:02:01 PM PDT by belgrade1861
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To: danamco
Do you think "President" Nobama should have security clearance???

I don't think Obama should be President period, and he should not have a security clearance of any kind. But that's an issue different from whether he is classified as a natural born citizen. Not sure why you decided to change the subject.

213 posted on 10/23/2008 2:15:47 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: MEGoody

It isn’t me who is all wrapped up in nonsense. And you must have me confused with someone else if you think I am trying get a “judge” to do anything about Barack Obama.

My only points were that you are factually wrong, uninformed, and too quick to mouth off about subjects in which you have not been schooled. I reiterate these points now.

You are factually wrong.

You are too quick to mouth off about subjects in which you have not been schooled.

I’m done with you.


214 posted on 10/23/2008 2:38:43 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Well, good luck with trying to get a judge to agree that Obama is not qualified to run for Prez.


215 posted on 10/23/2008 2:40:33 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: danamco
BTW, why do you think Nobama is heading out for Hawaii today to visit Granny???

Anything I say would be speculation, as would anything you would say about it.

Lawsuits in additional states are being added each day.

Anyone can file a lawsuit. Good luck on getting a judge to say Obama isn't qualified to run.

216 posted on 10/23/2008 2:42:38 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: MEGoody

Oh, and I forgot:

You are uninformed.

Also, this is not a matter of opinion and policy. This is a matter of FACT. Facts cannot be settled through debate. They can only be learned. I suggest you try that approach.


217 posted on 10/23/2008 2:42:44 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: John Valentine
This is a matter of FACT.

LOL Good luck getting a judge to rule that Obama isn't qualified to run for the Presidency.

218 posted on 10/23/2008 2:43:49 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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To: MEGoody
Anyone can file a lawsuit. Good luck on getting a judge to say Obama isn't qualified to run.

I fully agree with posts 214 and 217. Good By!!!

219 posted on 10/23/2008 2:48:10 PM PDT by danamco
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To: John Valentine
I’m done with you.

Then why did you post to me again?

220 posted on 10/23/2008 2:50:34 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall cause you to vote against the Democrats.)
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