[Loyolas Mattman]

Again, maybe, maybe not, but the genie isn’t going back in the bottle. It’s fantasy to think otherwise.

The mass disappearance of 12 million people (about 3% or so of the total population) isn’t going to descend from the heavens to save the Conservative movement. The circumstances are what they are. Adapt or perish.

[Loyolas Mattman]

Also it's not a given that conservatives will have to move to the left to cater to Hispanic voters. How about we convince them to come to conservatism through the marketplace of ideas instead of conservatism coming to them?

However, you aren't going to convince person 1 if they think you are going to toss a net on them and hijack them to the middle of the Mexican desert.

[winoneforthegipper]

History suggests that in a recession, jobs are at a premium and even menial task adventures become attractive.

That being the case, I think illegal immigrants will be the first to feel the pinch(market dictated,no need)....looking at the silver lining of the gathering clouds, that is.

Gov. Palin, is pretty much being painted into a corner right now by the MSM, and I am sure, currently being instructed on not intenitonally providing ammo to the opposition. Certainly a to disagree with John on this issue would be just that.

Immigration is a fluent issue, she can host other ideas and claim a change of heart, without much backlash. So to those who are crying foul....stop and look at the beautiful forest not the single diseased tree!

[af_vet_rr]

Again, maybe, maybe not, but the genie isn’t going back in the bottle. It’s fantasy to think otherwise.

We can't put the genie back in the bottle, but we can sure as hell keep millions of genies from becoming citizens who can and will vote for Democrats.

Unfortunately, both McCain and Obama support amnesty, so in the long term we are finished. Either one will have a Democrat Congress, which means that they will get amnesty pushed through.

At that point, bickering over whether to vote Republican, stay home, or vote third party will be useless, since you'll have millions of new Democrats added to the rolls.

[CottonBall]

Adapt or perish.

Good thing our founding fathers didn't have such a wussy attitude.