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To: roses of sharon
Well, then the coast's would have to take care of the poor on their own for a change

We do that already. Poverty rates in New England are lower than in the South, for example. Without our tax dollars going to pay for welfare programs in places like Mississippi, we would be saving money.

RedStates could demand that their earnings not be taxes for FEDERAL (PBS, NPR)TV, FEDERAL SCHOOLS, WELFARE, ABORTION, etc, and so much more.

As the chart I posted above show,s the Red States love receiving tax dollars for education, welfare, Medicare/Medicaid, you name it. Alaska, which is supposedly a place full of independent outdoorsmen who don't like government, is more than happy to take $1.83 from the Fed for every dollar they put in. Meanwhile, New Jersey, which is supposedly full of leeching socialists, gets back 65 cents for every buck it sends in to the treasury.

RedStates could have the military since we are willing to pay for it, and the commie blue states are hate the military.

I doubt the Red States could afford a good military without Blue State tax dollars.

63 posted on 10/22/2008 10:33:01 AM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Citizen Blade

I don’t disagree that your chart shows red states taking in more tax dollars than they give out.

However, maybe they wouldn’t actually need those dollars to function if they cut out the beuracracy, waste, and federal mandates. A good incentive to clean house.

The highest school spening per pupil does not equate to the best education.

Take the fed gov out of healthcare and prices will drop, too. Anyone read the study where the price of Lasik, which is not covered by insurance or medicare, has decreased over the years while everything else has increased.


66 posted on 10/22/2008 10:40:56 AM PDT by bradthebuilder (War is peace; Ignorance is strength; Freedom is slavery)
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To: Citizen Blade

That’s a very interesting chart. It seems to me that the numbers are in some way tied to population density, no? The more crowded a state is, it seems, the less bang for the buck they get.

This shows up even within regions. For example, sparsely populated Maine gets $1.41 while densely populated Massachussetts gets $.75. New Jersey, which barely has any space to walk anymore, gets $.65, while Maryland, which has maintained a pretty fair amount of rural space even given the burgeoning population centers of the D.C. suburbs, gets $1.30.

Is this a reasonable inference?


67 posted on 10/22/2008 10:44:12 AM PDT by ravensandricks (Jesus rides beside me. He never buys any smokes.)
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To: Citizen Blade

When you live in a high cost of living state, which then requires higher wages, the federal progressive income tax is deadly.

In addition, when people retire, they tend to move to lower cost red states and there they receive medicare/social security, which is then counted as federal money spent in that state.

Blue state people are screwed because, well, that is what happens in blue states.


71 posted on 10/22/2008 10:49:09 AM PDT by KeyesPlease
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To: Citizen Blade

The “blue states” have the money because there is no where else to go.

Create a freedom friendly environment that doesn’t crush business with regulations and taxes. Hmmmm... I wonder who will beat down a path to your country?

Its already been proven that a company will open up shop in a hell hole like Mexico to get away from the insanity of this country, its regulations , taxes and unions. I happen to think that once the free states are established and people see we are not going away that we wont be hurting for business.

In fact... Over time, more of the “blue” state populations will see the stark differences between freedom and slavery. I think we would eventually recover much of the area initially lost during the breakup.


75 posted on 10/22/2008 10:57:09 AM PDT by myself6 (.)
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To: Citizen Blade
LOL, sure....we shall see how well they fare under their chosen Messiah....who's supporters are communists, Islamists, socialists, abortionists, atheists, political correctness, anti capitalists, a SC who ruled against who?, jails full of Christians instead of violent criminals, gun bans, law schools, women studies schools, no RICH people, EVERYONE equal, no more racists, no discrimination. No gas stations, no cars, windmills everywhere, no nuke plants, no electricity, corporations outlawed, gov run health care.

It sounds like heaven, or Cuba, maybe the New Europe.

And with allies like Chavez, Castro's minions, Iranians, Syrians, I say wow.

But who would Code Pink protest? Or the Black Panthers? Nation of Islam? The new Weathermen? The ACLU? The NAACP?

With no icky Christians or Jews, who would be their boogyman?

No thanks, I'll take a new beginning with the old Constitution, with real men, and real Americans, real churches, real capitalism, real education, real work.

82 posted on 10/22/2008 11:05:17 AM PDT by roses of sharon (When the enemy comes in like a flood, the Spirit of the LORD will put him to flight (Isaiah 59:19)
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