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To: According2RecentPollsAirIsGood

I actually believe you don’t need tough border control between the two nations. You could even have open borders. The issues that separate us are socialism and public morality. Those are governed by the laws of the land. I have no problem if the socialist shops in my store, or the gay couple eats in my restaurant. At the end of the day they will receive no entitlement or benefit from the government of my state. My tax dollars will not be “spread around” to them. If their behavior is criminal under the laws of my state they will be punished according to the law. Likewise when I visit the blue nation I will be aware that I can be imprisoned for my speech, that I cannot practice my religion openly. In the end a lot of blue staters would eventually look at the two systems and decide to give up their dysfunctional Marxist Utopia and try their luck in the free state. The key is to have a strict and clear constitution so that we cannot waiver from liberty again.


56 posted on 10/22/2008 10:23:18 AM PDT by azcap
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To: azcap

Interesting take. I was being about half tongue-in-cheek with my thoughts, but considering what you see in Northern Virginia and Florida, the possibility of having your voting demographics change by mere infusion is very real.

However, I was thinking further about this, and really if our hypothetical nation was restarted with the Constitution and Declaration of Independence as the founding documents and a strict adherence to their original intent, everything would probably be just fine. Several amendments would need to be dropped (16th and 17th come to mind immediately), and much stronger checks and balances on the Judicial branch would need to be put in place. But this would go a long way towards limiting the government and closing the backdoors that have allowed it to get out of control as of now.

Relations with other countries under such guidelines would work themselves out in a sensible way.

Of course it’s all purely hypothetical and pie in the sky. How would we divide up the country anyway?


78 posted on 10/22/2008 10:58:54 AM PDT by According2RecentPollsAirIsGood
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To: azcap

“The issues that separate us are socialism and public morality. “

Public morality. How is that defined? or delineated ? I am a Christian. I get my morals from the Bible. it’s pretty easy for me to determine what is right and wrong.

I know there are a lot of non-Christian Conservatives, but what I don’t understand is how morality is then defined?

If it is a general consensus of public opinion . . . isn’t that how we got here ?

If we DID secede, and start a “new” country, how would you ensure it didn’t go the way of the “old” one ?


95 posted on 10/22/2008 11:31:59 AM PDT by stompk
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