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To: mn-bush-man; maggief

That Obama comes from a dysfunctional family on his mother’s side is obvious.

His great-grandmother Ruth committed suicide when his grandfather, Stanley was about 8 years old.
(abandonment # 1)

Stanley’s father Ralph Sr. left Stanley and Ralph Jr with his in-laws, the Armours, in El Dorado and moved to Witchita to live with his parents. (more about them later)
(abandoment #2)

Stanley was not a nice man. He had a history including being kicked out of school for punching the principal.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/familytree/545442,BSX-News-wotreedd09.stng

He did not seem like a nice father.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004164387_brodeur05m.html

“......Box called her friend “Stannie,” a nickname for Stanley. She was named for her father, who wanted a boy — and the girl knew it. As a result, their relationship was strained.

“He was hard on her, in that he picked on her,” Box said of Stanley Dunham, a furniture salesman in downtown Seattle.

“He had a sarcastic humor,” Box said, “and she could give it back.”

Dunham’s mother, Madelyn, a bank employee, was “very quiet and serious” and often protected her daughter from her husband’s sarcasm, Box said............”

Sounds like verbal abuse wrapped up in a pretty package to me. That Madelyn had to “protect” her daughter speaks volumes.

Make no mistake...in 1960 a 17 / 18 year old girl does not get pregnant by a black Kenyan out of wedlock as a matter of course. Not even in Hawaii. Rebellion? Escape?

Obama Sr. leaves Stanley Ann and Obama, eventually returning to Kenya
(abandonment #3)

Stanley Ann moves to Indonesia. She sends Bary back to the states while she remains in Indonesia with Lolo and their daughter.
(MAJOR abandonment #4)

Stanley Ann leaves Lolo because he wanted more kids and she did not want that path.
(abandonment 5)


In the Dunham family abandonment is part of the family legacy. Someone might say what happened generations ago has no bearing on the present. I would disagree because I have seen nothing to indicate a change in the way the families operate.


38 posted on 10/22/2008 6:51:53 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (Stand Up Chuck!)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Mysteries surround the Dunham clan ... and it appears many, MANY public records have been cleansed.

Not all, though ...


42 posted on 10/22/2008 7:23:32 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights; Chief Engineer
From your link:

“Box last saw her friend in 1961, when she visited Seattle on her way from Honolulu to Massachusetts, where her then-husband was attending Harvard.”

I asked Chief Engineer, who has a wealth of information, about that statement. He sent me this link that states Ann Dunham lived in Seattle and went to UW in 1961-1962. The Myth of Barack Obama's Early Life

Thank you, Chief Engineer, for once again answering my question.

64 posted on 10/22/2008 3:02:15 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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