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To: Philo-Junius
Actually, U.S. law does not acknowledge dual citizenship at all. Either one is a U.S. citizen, or one is not; the beliefs of other nations about a person's citizenship in their country are not taken into reference in deciding this.

US law does not forbid dual citizenship. It does not encourage it, but there is nothing illegal about being a citizen of both the US and Kenya, for example. But you are correct that whether or not someone is an American citizen is purely an issue of American law- your status as a citizen of another country is irrelevant in that determination.

The U.S. State Department acknowledges that U.S. citizens in fact hold passports from other countries, but U.S. policy and law would not permit anyone to officially acknowledge a U.S. citizen's citizenship of any other country.

That's not correct. The US is aware that I am both a citizen of the US and Canada- it comes up every time they swipe my passport when I enter the US (the two countries share immigration information, so Canadian immigration officials see the same info when they swipe either my Canadian or American passport- I typically carry both when I travel).

167 posted on 10/21/2008 12:16:03 PM PDT by Citizen Blade (What would Ronald Reagan do?)
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To: Citizen Blade

U.S. Customs treats you according to the passport you present; if you were to show your Canadian passport after standing in the U.S. nationals line, they would tell you to go stand in the other line.

The U.S. government acknowledges that other governments may consider U.S. citizens to be citizens of their country, but the U.S. government does not consider that consideration to have any force in its own policies. Someone who is considered a citizen by both the U.S. and Canada, for instance, has no right to consult with the Canadian consulate if he is arrested in the U.S., for instance, if his U.S. citizenship is known to police.


172 posted on 10/21/2008 12:25:06 PM PDT by Philo-Junius (One precedent creates another. They soon accumulate and constitute law.)
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To: Citizen Blade
Thew issue is not citizenship. Obama is a citizen and has a passport to prove it. The issue is whether he is natural born using jus solis or jus sanguinis. Since his father is not a US citizen, he is not eligible to be a natural born citizen if born abroad.

Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child.

Obama's mother was 18 when he was born in 1961. So the only question is whether Obama was born in the US. He could clear that up immediately by producing his live birth certificate showing the attending physician, name of hospital, etc. like McCain has done. I am not a conspiracy nut, but I do find it odd why Obama is fighting the Berg and other suits in court when he can clear things up very easily. The question then becomes what is he hiding?

190 posted on 10/21/2008 5:03:45 PM PDT by kabar
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