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Kirk Douglas and the McCarthy era
WFAA ^ | Oct. 20 2008

Posted on 10/20/2008 3:12:30 PM PDT by Rastus

Fighting back against the blacklist

For a dozen years during the Cold War, people accused of belonging (or formerly belonging) to the American Communist Party were barred from working in the movie industry. The blacklist era ended when Kirk Douglas gave screenwriting credit to Dalton Trumbo for his work on Spartacus, which opened 48 years ago this month.

Mr. Douglas, now 91, discussed the legacy of Spartacus and the contemporary political climate in Hollywood.

Why did you hire Dalton Trumbo?

Sen. [Joseph] McCarthy was an awful man who was finding communists all over the country. He blacklisted the writers who wouldn't obey his edict. The heads of the studios were hypocrites who went along with it.

My company produced Spartacus, written by Dalton Trumbo, a blacklisted writer, under the name Sam Jackson. Too many people were using false names back then. I was embarrassed. I was young enough to be impulsive, so even though I was warned against it, I used his real name on the screen.

I hear complaints nowadays that, in Hollywood, you can lean as far left as you like but you're chastised for leaning right.

I think that's a lot of [expletive]. Did Ronald Reagan get chastised? Does Arnold Schwarzenegger?


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Haha. What a maroon. McCarthy blacklisted writers, eh? I suppose this was in that historical period where he was the only senator to head a house committee.

Good grief, man. You lived this and you don't even know what you're talking about.

1 posted on 10/20/2008 3:12:30 PM PDT by Rastus
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To: Rastus

McCarthy had nothing at all to do with Hollywood. McCarthy was concerned with the Army.


2 posted on 10/20/2008 3:15:35 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: Rastus
If Kirk Douglas uttered a syllable of that tripe, I'll eat my hat. The man has had 2 or 3 strokes and last time I saw him was in la-la land.

They must think we're ALL stupid.

3 posted on 10/20/2008 3:18:46 PM PDT by WarEagle (Can America survive a President named Hussein?)
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To: nickcarraway

What’s your theory on the left tying McCarthy to HUAC? Is it ignorance, or is it because what McCarthy was digging into was much more important than a bunch of flakes in Hollywood, so they knew he had to be destroyed? They figured the public would be more worked up over a guy trying to root out a bunch of irrelevant “artists,” so they tied him to all of that? That’s the only thing I can figure.


4 posted on 10/20/2008 3:18:46 PM PDT by Rastus (This fall, terror has a new name: Obama joe Biden!)
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To: Rastus
McCarthy had nothing to do with the House committee on unamerican activities.

Also, those people, including Trumbo, were Communists.

Of course, there is no mention of the blacklist of patriotic Americans who testified as friendly witnesses before the committee such as Adolph Menjou and comedy writer Morrie Ryskynd.

Ayn Rand escaped being blacklisted by the Commies because she was under contract to Hal Wallis at the time; e.g., "Love Letters."

5 posted on 10/20/2008 3:19:54 PM PDT by Stepan12 (Palin & Bolton in 2012)
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To: Rastus

I just hate it that Douglas is such a moron. He was in the first movie I ever saw, and was always one of my favorites.


6 posted on 10/20/2008 3:19:54 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Rastus
The Hollywood blacklist—more precisely the entertainment industry blacklist...

A group of studio executives, acting under the aegis of the Motion Picture Association of America, announced the firing of the artists—the so-called Hollywood Ten—in what has become known as the Waldorf Statement. On June 22, 1950, a pamphlet called Red Channels appeared, naming 151 entertainment industry professionals in the context of "Red Fascists and their sympathizers"; soon most of those named, along with a host of other artists, were barred from employment in much of the entertainment field. (snip)

7 posted on 10/20/2008 3:21:10 PM PDT by donna ( I am confident that we can create a Kingdom right here on Earth.” - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: WarEagle

“If Kirk Douglas uttered a syllable of that tripe, I’ll eat my hat.”

Ditto. A whale of a tale.


8 posted on 10/20/2008 3:21:54 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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The blacklisting stuff was real. It was over the top. I don't begrudge continued expression of resentment over it by Hollywood artists, even though they get the history all wrong.

On the other hand, the driver of anti-Communism efforts was vital national security. There were traitors. Those who merely abused their free speech and association rights to recruit to the Communist cause were on a borderline. Certainly it was not crazy to be concerned with them.

9 posted on 10/20/2008 3:41:31 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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Exactly.

McCarthy didn’t blacklist anyone. That was an earlier era.

And, secondly, the people being blacklisted were blacklisted by their Hollywood pals.

Stalin was one of the great butchers of history. I could see why you might not hire someone who was an agent or admirer of one of history’s monsters. But, no, McCarthy had nothing to do with it.


10 posted on 10/20/2008 3:43:13 PM PDT by marron
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To: Rastus; 3D-JOY; 50mm; AGreatPer; calcowgirl; cindy-true-supporter; concretebob; Disco Dave; ...
I am not Joe the Plumber!
10½ posted on 10/20/2008 6:55:09 PM EDT by Kirk Douglas (I'm a senile old Hollywood liberal)

To: 3D-Joy; 50mm; AGreatPer; calcowgirl; cindyTrueSupporter; concretebob; Disco Dave; Doctor Raoul; ...
ping!

If you want off my ping list get over it!


11 posted on 10/20/2008 3:59:53 PM PDT by BufordP (Had Mexicans flown planes into the World Trade Center, Jorge Bush would have surrendered.)
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I always heard that much of what McCarthy ‘’claimed’’ actually came out in congressional hearings. So anyone who could read could see the info,,it wasn’t secret.


12 posted on 10/20/2008 4:11:02 PM PDT by Waco ( G00d bye 0'bomber)
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To: NutCrackerBoy
The blacklisting stuff was real.

The only involvement McCarthy may have had in "blacklisting" took place in 1953, when he sent his committee staffers Roy Cohn and G. David Schine around Europe to visit United States Information Agency libraries. Cohn and Schine were to weed out pro-Communist and anti-American books from these libraries--a controversial, yet legitimate assignment, since these facilities are designed to promote a positive image of America abroad, and are not "public libraries." Among USIA librarians, the expression "come rain or shine" was replaced by "come Cohn or Schine."

The Senate Committee on Government Operations and its Subcommittee on Investigations, which McCarthy chaired from 1953 until 1955, never investigated Hollywood.

13 posted on 10/20/2008 4:27:28 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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What a load. Aside from the fact he has his history wrong, there is absolutely no doubt that the communist made a big effort to infiltrate the hollywood unions. They never want to talk about that.


14 posted on 10/20/2008 4:40:33 PM PDT by yazoo
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Dalton Trumbo faithfully toed the Party line laid down by Stalin. His anti-war novel Johnny Got His Gun (Lippincott, 1939) appeared during the era of the Hitler-Stalin pact, when the Communists were promoting pacifism in the West and trying to hamper the Western Allies in their war effort against the Axis. The book was taken out of print after Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, and, if Wikipedia is to be believed, Trumbo turned the names of those requesting the book over to the FBI.
15 posted on 10/20/2008 4:42:57 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Frank_Discussion
Ditto. A whale of a tale.

20,000 Leagues!

16 posted on 10/20/2008 4:43:30 PM PDT by Steely Tom (RKBA: last line of defense against vote fraud)
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To: Fiji Hill

Yes! I love that era of history. Woody Guthrie and the Atlas Singers went so far as to denounce their own album because they suddenly were on the other side when Hitler violated the pact. Which makes me ask: if you weren’t beholden to the Soviet Union, why couldn’t you have spoken out against their pact with (fellow) monsters like the Nazis?


17 posted on 10/20/2008 5:25:06 PM PDT by Rastus (This fall, terror has a new name: Obama joe Biden!)
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Here's one of my favorite Ronald Reagan stories. It's from a really good 2001 Washington Post article about Reagan. Unfortunately, only page one is still available online that I can see. I posted this here a while back, though, so at least it's captured:


A scene from 1946, once recounted by Reagan: The setting is the posh residence of a top star, a meeting of the HICCASP. Reagan is running late, and arrives to grab a seat next to MGM studio head Dore Schary.

"Lots of people here I didn't think I'd see," he says.

"Stick around," answers Schary.

FDR's son James stands to propose adopting a statement denouncing communism and the Soviet state. "I was amazed at the reaction," remembered Reagan. One musician stands to assert that the Soviet constitution is superior to the American one. A screenwriter says he'd volunteer for Russia if war between it and the United States ever broke out. "I decided that an Irishman couldn't stay out, and took the floor and endorsed what Roosevelt said." Pandemonium. Reagan recalled one woman having a heart attack.

The meeting breaks up. Schary tells Reagan, "We're meeting up at Olivia de Havilland's apartment."

Reagan goes over to find about a dozen HICCASP members celebrating how they'd just smoked out the Communists.

Reagan is looking at de Havilland, grinning.

"What's so funny?" she asks him.

"Nothing," he says, "except I thought you were one."

She looks at him, smiling, "I thought you were one. Until tonight, that is."


LOVE it. Smoked them out!

Here's the first page of the article:

Rehearsals for a Lead Role

If you can figure out how to view the second page, do tell. Thanks.
18 posted on 10/20/2008 6:00:15 PM PDT by Rastus (This fall, terror has a new name: Obama joe Biden!)
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To: Steely Tom

Yep!


19 posted on 10/20/2008 6:12:07 PM PDT by Frank_Discussion (May the wings of Liberty never lose a feather!)
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To: Fiji Hill
The blacklisting stuff was real. -NutCrackerBoy

The only involvement McCarthy may have had in "blacklisting" took place in 1953...

I know, correct, the reference to McCarthy was mistaken. I don't think that fact is central to the subject matter. You don't deny existence of Hollywood blacklisting itself, do you?

20 posted on 10/20/2008 6:16:45 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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