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Passports will be needed to buy mobile phones (UK)
Times Online ^ | 10/19/08 | David Leppard

Posted on 10/19/2008 11:19:06 AM PDT by LibWhacker

Everyone who buys a mobile telephone will be forced to register their identity on a national database under government plans to extend massively the powers of state surveillance.

Phone buyers would have to present a passport or other official form of identification at the point of purchase. Privacy campaigners fear it marks the latest government move to create a surveillance society.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: counterterrorism; europe; jihadineurope; mobile; needed; passports; phones

1 posted on 10/19/2008 11:19:07 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker

Brave new world


2 posted on 10/19/2008 11:47:14 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: free_life

Exactly.


3 posted on 10/19/2008 11:53:11 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: LibWhacker

BTW, in the UK, one needs a “license” to purchase a satellite dish OR TV so this doesn’t surprise me.

There should come a time when a Brit will need a passport to buy a movie ticket or enter a grocery store.


4 posted on 10/19/2008 11:55:25 AM PDT by max americana
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To: max americana

Maybe some kind of mark to buy or sell anything .............hmmmmmmmmmmmm.............where have I heard that before?


5 posted on 10/19/2008 12:02:12 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: LibWhacker

“Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grow not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress toward more pain.”

1984


6 posted on 10/19/2008 12:06:37 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Wealth is not mayonnaise, Barack..........)
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To: LibWhacker

Comments Section

What about small online retailers, who refurbish phones and sell them, they will be put out of business, as “legit” customers are not going to pass on passport details to an “eBay” seller.
Yet again it seem’s this goverment is trying to ruin small businesses, and allow big companies to profit more.

Sam, Cambridge,


7 posted on 10/19/2008 12:29:35 PM PDT by B4Ranch (I'd rather have a VP that can gut a Moose, than a President that wants to gut our Second Amendment!)
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To: LibWhacker
Perhaps the thing I was most wrong about was, back in 1995 when Hong Kong passed from the Brits to China. I was horrified that they were being taken over by those totalitarians. Poor Hong Kong! Someone save them!

Wonder how many Brits would like to defect to Hong Kong today.

8 posted on 10/19/2008 12:30:48 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments
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To: Sybeck1

It’s so sad where the world is headed. We’ve had fair warning via the Bible, but it’s still hard to imagine that all these things are actually developing.


9 posted on 10/19/2008 12:33:50 PM PDT by catbertz
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To: LibWhacker
Much as I fear a surveillance state — I think this makes more sense than allowing “burner” phones; as you do in the U.S.

Americans criticize Canada for lax security (often with good cause) — yet, you persist in leaving a gaping hole in your security, by allowing unregistered “burners”.

Terrorists, or criminal organizations are able to get a (for most purposes) secure communications system for the price of a few disposable cell phones. In Canada, everyone has to provide identification, before their cell phone is activated. While this does open the door for state surveillance, it also closes a huge gap in the security “wall”.

If we didn't have cause to tighten security in so many other intrusive ways (shoe inspections at airports; passports, biometric ID, no-fly lists, etc.) then I would be 100% against registering cell phones. Considering that we do need most of those other security measures — why leave a gaping hole?

10 posted on 10/19/2008 12:41:47 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

What I hate most about all this is that we’re allowing al-Qaeda to change our way of life, which is what its goal was all along. We’re just getting a little taste of how bad it would be under its rule.

If I had any say in the matter, I wouldn’t limit our freedoms at all, but theirs (anyone who has an unacceptably high probability of being al-Qaeda; e.g., all arabs and muslims, for starters)


11 posted on 10/19/2008 1:02:07 PM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Forgotten Amendments
Wonder how many Brits would like to defect to Hong Kong today.

I've read on other threads that there's a significant migration OUT of Britain underway.

12 posted on 10/19/2008 2:35:43 PM PDT by sionnsar (Obama?Bye-den!|Iran Azadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY)|http://trad-anglican.faithweb.com/)
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To: LibWhacker

As if the privacy intrusion wasn’t bad enough, there’s sure to be a new tax as well.


13 posted on 10/19/2008 2:40:36 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Joe the Plumber/Palin 2008!!)
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