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To: DocT111

For every Catholic I know who supports McCain due to his pro-life stance, I know of another Catholic who is supporting Obama due to the Iraq war, Universal Health Care, and the economy in general.

At our church discussion groups, the abortion issue is being parried by the theory that since no Republican administration has taken significant steps to outlaw abortion (despite many promises), the issue (abortion) should be taken off the table when considering a candidate (i.e., forming your voting conscience).

Not my conclusion, but I understand why somebody would think this.


4 posted on 10/18/2008 7:57:46 AM PDT by opticks
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To: opticks

Doesn’t matter WHAT they think of abortion......we all KNOW what GOD thinks of it.......EVERYONE will answer at the Final Judgement.


7 posted on 10/18/2008 8:33:25 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: opticks

“the abortion issue is being parried by the theory that since no Republican administration has taken significant steps to outlaw abortion (despite many promises),”

I don’t have time to research this right now, so going off memory - would appreciate any FReepers whose memory is better than mine to jump in and confirm or correct.

I believe that President Bush and the Republicans got the Partial Birth abortion law passed (IIRC Clinton vetoed it).

I also think that their argument is a bit flawed, given Roe v Wade and, again IIRC the SC held hearings on this again within the last few years. I don’t see how Republicans can outlaw abortion. That said, many have said (including Palin and Thompson, and I think McCain) that it should be a state issue, determined and voted on by the people in each state, not something mandated by law at the national level. I also think that Pres Bush, McCain, Palin and others have pushed for adoption rather than abortion. Given Sen and Mrs McCain have a adopted a child, they speak to the benefits of it. Contrast this to 0bama’s comment regarding a baby being a ‘punishment’ (if his daughters got pregnant when in their teens).


8 posted on 10/18/2008 8:46:48 AM PDT by Seattle Conservative (God Bless and protect our troops and their CIC)
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To: opticks; NYer; Kevmo; narses; Salvation; Sun; Antoninus; cpforlife.org

Alito & Roberts-from GWB

Ginsburg-from Clinton.

McCain touts Scalia, Alito, Roberts, & Thomas.

Obama promises proabortion “justices.”

4,000 innocent slaughtered babies each day trumps the lost souls of all other issues combined.

I’m turning an O supporter around on FOCA alone, and this is a person who is ambivalent about abortion, but is shocked at how dedicated O is to baby-slaughter.


17 posted on 10/19/2008 5:39:56 PM PDT by fetal heart beats by 21st day (Defending human life is not a federalist issue. It is the business of all of humanity.)
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To: opticks; All

What?!? Your little discussion group is dead wrong, pun intended.

Inform them about the Mexico City Policy, which Bush on his first day in office reinstated after Clinton discontinued it, and about FOCA which Obama says signing into law will be his “first act as president” and will effectively roll back every single gain for life of the past 30 years.

Those 2 Life Issues ALONE are enough reason to vote Republican, and are evidence that Republicans not only advance the prolife cause in general, but save actual innocent lives.


30 posted on 10/19/2008 11:00:43 PM PDT by baa39 (Our Lady of Victory, pray for us!)
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