Cold Reality

IBD Editorials ^ | October 17, 2008

[Kaslin]

Climate Change: Funny how economic concerns pull the mind away from foolishness such as global warming. But weather goes on, and in many places it doesn't happen the way fear mongers predict.

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Start with Alaska, a place in the news of late. The state's glaciers, after two centuries of shrinkage (a trend that began before the advent of the internal combustion engine and smokestack economy), actually grew during the winter of 2007-08.

"In general," Bruce Molnia, a U.S. Geological Survey glaciologist, told the Anchorage Daily News, "the weather this summer was the worst I have seen in at least 20 years."

Translation: It was so cold that the snow that causes glaciers to expand didn't melt until later than usual.

Meanwhile, the International Arctic Research Center reports 29% more Arctic sea ice this year than last. This doesn't exactly square with overheated predictions earlier in the year that the North Pole would be entirely free of ice over the summer for the first time in recorded

[xcamel]

FReepmail me to get on or off

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Heads up...

[HerrBlucher]

My boss, who has been a global warmer for years and who I have had many heated arguments with is now finally starting to talk about global cooling. Maybe I hit a nerve, maybe it was all the anti global warming literature plastering my wall, or maybe he got bored with global warming and wants “change.”

We both agreed today that global cooling would be far worse for mankind than global warming. So what the greenies have to do is find a way to link global cooling to human activity and they got it in the bag.....paging al gore....help need in the bs department....

[Stevenc131]

Another article that I read mentioned that the Little Ice Age lasted until about 1850, and the first measurement of glaciers in Alaska was done by the Russians in approx. 1800. Consequently, the baseline that we’ve been using for measuring the size of the glaciers occurred at what would have been their point of greatest development. Naturally when the Little Ice Age ended, the glaciers began to shrink and have continued to do so until now. Although we know when the LIA ended, scientests aren’t really sure when it began, probably sometime around 1300AD. This means we’ll never be able to compare the current size of the glaciers to their size pre-LIA. For all we know, they may be larger now than 1000 years ago.

[palmer]

Fairbanks was -5 and 19 today (normal 15 and 30). Not a record low though, that was -10 in 1907.

[Robert A Cook PE]

Well, technically, 1000 years ago was the Middle Ages warm period, so the glaciers “then” would be (most likely) just about the same as they are now. Plus or minus a (very much unknown) delay period between temperatures, rainfall.snowfall and the glacier end-of-ice-maximum-limit.

What we do know for sure is that humans were active in MANY ice fields when they were SMALLER than they are (or just at the same depth as they are now): in the Andes, children were sacrificed and buried to the gods under recently-revealed ice and glacier fields - so the fields must have been open when they were buried; and in the Alps, caveman bodies have been discovered buried under retreating ice fields. Again, same conclusion: the Cro-Magnon ice fields were as far retreated THEN as they are NOW.

[steelyourfaith]

Thanx !

 

Beam me to Planet Gore !

[alwaysconservative]

Thanks for the pings! Have you bought your “global warming” mittens yet?

[free_for_now]

Still haven’t got McCain off the Global Warming bandwagon.