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The Buckley Son Rises: Kathleen Parker doubles down
National Review ^ | October 17, 2008 | Kathleen Parker

Posted on 10/17/2008 9:34:11 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative

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To: puroresu
They were the result of “compassionate conservatism” and pandering to the elite Neocons in NYC and DC.

This is why I cringed when Bush used this phrase in his first run for the presidency (he didn't use it the second time around because conservatives didn't want to hear it anymore). Real conservatives knew what "compassionate conservatism" truly meant - it was simply re-packaged moderatism, i.e. liberal Republicanism. Bush is a moderate, not a conservative, with most of his domestic agenda being proof of this fact.

If the GOP loses this election, the loss will sit squarely on the shoulders of the elitist moderates in the party. McCain is no conservative, either, at least not enough to be able to call himself one. He is instead nearly the perfect moderate candidate, one who has mostly been unable to articulate a vision of what he truly stands for. Parker and Buckley should love this guy since he is one of them. They are not conservatives.

41 posted on 10/17/2008 11:12:09 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (A happy member of the New Media.)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

This column would have some legitimacy if she & Buckley were throwing their support to somebody like Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin as a protest because “the GOP deserves to lose this one” due to having abandoned conservatism. But instead, they’re actively giving support to the most openly Marxist candidate ever.


42 posted on 10/17/2008 11:23:13 AM PDT by Sloth (Pontius Pilate voted 'present'; Barrabas was community organizer.)
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To: Abe XVI

Do you think Parker & Noonan really want Obama to win? Did Noonan not read the editorial in The Wall Street Journal (her paper, mind you) about the disastrous effects of a Dem trifecta?

I can understand a disgruntled conservative voting for Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin. I don’t agree with it, it’s not pragmatic, but I at least understand the point of view there. But no conservative, not now, not EVER, could vote affirmatively FOR Obama. Any “conservative” that does that doesn’t have very strong convictions.


43 posted on 10/17/2008 11:28:23 AM PDT by St. Louis Conservative
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Chris Buckley or any other conservative endorsing Obama over McCain because of McCain's defects makes no sense. It is like complaining that the kitchen is too hot and then putting your hand on a burner for relief.

Contrary to Parker's praise of National Review’s supposed radicalism and eclecticism in Bill Buckley's heyday, no one at National Review endorsed Humphrey over Nixon, McGovern over Nixon, Carter over Ford, or Mondale over Bush, or Gore over Bush.

Although National Review relentlessly pointed out deviations from conservatism by Republican candidates and administrations, at election time, practical politics dictated their choices. This year, McCain is the only sensible choice for conservatives.

44 posted on 10/17/2008 12:01:21 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Some of us know the difference between Conservatives and Republicans. Many of us don’t. If you support a Republican because you think he (or she) is necessarily a Conservative, you will be sadly mistaken.


45 posted on 10/17/2008 12:30:27 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp
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To: DallasBiff

there is so much jealosy out there....mostly women...but some men...because we wouldn’t all want another stuffed white shirted middleaged guy with the typical charisma of a normal pub....answer is HELL NO.


46 posted on 10/17/2008 1:13:49 PM PDT by cherry
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To: PGR88

Parker fries my a$$. She is the kook. An ivory tower and silver-spoonish kind of kook, but still a kook. She does not speak for me as Sarah does and by, her effete posture, she is helping Obama and is therefore an enemy of the people and the nation. There is no place for her or her ilk in a true conservative resurgence.


47 posted on 10/17/2008 1:26:56 PM PDT by Dionysius (Jingoism is no vice.)
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To: Oratam
At the risk of invoking the dangerous "Hitler Analogy" I am reminding of Hitler's ordering the destruction of Germany when the war was lost because he decided the nation had "failed" him. Man, I don't want to be loved by these kinds of people.

That was a brilliant use of the Hitler Analogy. Hear, hear!!!

48 posted on 10/17/2008 2:25:42 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: Old Professer

You just gave the best blurb on Kathleen Parker I’ve ever read!


49 posted on 10/17/2008 2:31:48 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: Rockingham
Chris Buckley or any other conservative endorsing Obama over McCain because of McCain's defects makes no sense. It is like complaining that the kitchen is too hot and then putting your hand on a burner for relief. Contrary to Parker's praise of National Review’s supposed radicalism and eclecticism in Bill Buckley's heyday, no one at National Review endorsed Humphrey over Nixon, McGovern over Nixon, Carter over Ford, or Mondale over Bush, or Gore over Bush. Although National Review relentlessly pointed out deviations from conservatism by Republican candidates and administrations, at election time, practical politics dictated their choices. This year, McCain is the only sensible choice for conservatives.

Excellent post. It does a soul good to hang out with the ordinary folks here at FR. We have more common sense in our 200 word posts than the collected works of half a dozen "conservative" columnists.

50 posted on 10/17/2008 2:40:16 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: B Knotts

elitists vs. populists

My thoughts exactly. I have noticed the trend in the country over the past few years. People without Ivy-League educations need not apply....


51 posted on 10/17/2008 3:06:08 PM PDT by beancounter13
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Buckley said this week that he was going to vote for ‘The One.’ Isn’t that like killing to baby to cure diaper rash?”

Yes. If McCain doesn’t deserve to live, surely Obama deserves to win less. If Buckley wanted to take a principled stand and swallow the bitter pill, he should vote Libertarian or Constitutional. Don’t vote Obama. Never, never.


52 posted on 10/17/2008 6:48:59 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Do you think Parker & Noonan really want Obama to win?

Only Chistopher Buckley has openly come out in favor of Obama, but Parker's high fives and Noonan's bizarre screeds seem to suggest an exasperration that can only be harmful at this point. Yes, the republican party, and consrvativism itself is in disarray and hasn't had an articulate spokesperson in many years, but the dialogue on that issue should begin after the election. Not three weeks before. If Obama wins, then that discussion won't even matter for several years.

53 posted on 10/17/2008 7:45:11 PM PDT by Abe XVI
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Years of pandering to the extreme wing have created a party no longer attentive to its principles.

lol...but a Republican voting for the farthest leftwing wacko in U.S. history is being "attentive to [conservative] principles?"

It comes down to this: If Parker and Buckley's spoiled kid were ever conservatives (which I seriously doubt), they were on shaky ground, at best. And they've both evidently fallen for B-HO's style/personality, not his principles. Iow, they're emotional cripples.

54 posted on 10/17/2008 8:27:07 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: St. Louis Conservative

What an utterly absurd column. How does CB’s endorsement of Obama exemplify the “radical conservativism” of WFB? What, exactly, does Obama stand for that retains the heart Republican party that supposedly has left Parker and CB? Of course, she does not say. There is not the slightest shred of actual argument in the column to support her blanket condemnations of the right wing of the party other than to tout the supposed brilliance of CB (and, by implication, broadcasting her own intellectual prowess). In other words, “the Republican party left me; why you ask? Because we said so and we’re smarter than you, that’s why.” How on earth did someone so arrogant ever take over the NR? In fact, she exemplifies exactly the sort of elitist mentality that the great Buckley ridiculed.

It is not simply a matter of disagreement over the Palin pick, or the Bush administration or any specific collection of policy debates (all of which are and should be debated by conservatives). It’s the utter arrogance and blithe dismissal of any disagreement as being simply the result of what she thinks is a dumbing down of the party. Beyond that, however, I once again point to the fact that she makes no attempt whatsoever to explain how supporting Obama in any way furthers any principle of conservativism (in any rational sense of the word). She doesn’t do so because she can’t, because CB’s endorsement of Obama is exactly what it appears to be—an admission that CB himself is not a conservative, irrespective of what he or she thinks has happened to the Republican party. In other words, the alleged critique of the Republican party is nothing more than a paper-thin veil covering a move that is decidedly not conservative in any way, shape or form.


55 posted on 10/17/2008 8:47:42 PM PDT by Ilya Mourometz
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To: St. Louis Conservative
Republicans are not short on brainpower — or pride — but they have strayed off course. They do not, in fact, deserve to win this time, and someone had to remind them why.
So Kathleen Parker believes that because of the personal shortcomings of some Republicans that the country therefore deserves socialism and a far-left supermajority, the death of the conservative agenda for a generation, and the destruction of all that it has achieved since WFB stood up to champion it?

Kathleen says Republicans are not short on brainpower, and then she goes on to prove her independence.
 
56 posted on 10/17/2008 8:59:23 PM PDT by counterpunch (It's the SOCIALISM, Stupid!)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Pretty soon, Kathleen will be writing for the Huffington Post.


57 posted on 10/17/2008 9:51:27 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: St. Louis Conservative
This column proves that Parker lied when she said McCain should jettison Palin if he wanted to win. Disregarding the fact that dropping Palin would have guaranteed a loss by McCain (McCain will lose if he doesn't drop Palin but would lose because he dropped Palin...so that he could win. Huh?) this column proves that she simply never believed McCain or the Republicans should win. Thus her "remedy" of dropping Palin and her smirky review of Palin's VP debate performance were anything but honest.

That Bill Buckley's son has quit his father's "baby" and is going to vote for the most clear anti-thesis of his father's belief system clearly indicates that Little Buckley has not been a true conservative for a while and an opportunist at best.

58 posted on 10/17/2008 9:52:06 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Why Is The Educational Establishment Comfortable With Ayers' Unrepentent Radicalism (Terrorism)?)
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To: St. Louis Conservative

Strike three against Parker. First last year she said Hillary Clinton was “well qualified” to be president. Then she slammed Sarah Palin a few weeks ago. Now she calls conservative Republicans yahoos (that’s me folks) and tacitly endorses Obama. Parker has just written herself out of the conservative camp joining Buckley and Powell. So long Kate, it’s been nice to not know you.


59 posted on 10/19/2008 10:31:41 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: St. Louis Conservative
My view on Christopher Buckley is that this guy was never happy being a Conservative and probably hated his Father deep down. So now that Dad is gone Chris can come out of the closet, much like Ron Reagan will when Nancy is gone, and now proclaim himself a Liberal. This is really just to piss off Dad and his memory and everything WFB stood for.
So now we have another Liberal that has exposed himself publicly and now has found himself.
Well Chris I doubt you realize just what you have done but you will down the road. Take your trust fund and live well like your New Liberal best friends but old sport when the tide turns, as it will again, please don't come back, the door locked and key thrown away.
60 posted on 10/19/2008 5:25:26 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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