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1 posted on 10/16/2008 12:54:29 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: MeanWestTexan

umm. No.

I believe that good prevails over evil and the truth wins in the end.


2 posted on 10/16/2008 12:56:14 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative (A true patriot must always be willing to defend his country...against its government...)
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To: MeanWestTexan
To stop Obama patriots should lie, cheat, steal, deceive, and take every advantage.

4 posted on 10/16/2008 12:59:36 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Alinsky’s stuff is getting outdated. There are plenty of countertactics to counter their tactics. You can use their tactics against them if you know what you’re doing.


5 posted on 10/16/2008 1:03:46 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! (You can vote Democrat when you're dead)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Reagan never needed “rules” like that.


6 posted on 10/16/2008 1:03:53 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares (Refusing to kneel before the polling gods and whimper.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
YAY! I'm so glad people are FINALLY talking about this. The left has been doing this for years, but no one seemed to care.

Will the Republican politicians please WAKE UP! Sheesh.

9 posted on 10/16/2008 1:05:53 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal")
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To: MeanWestTexan

Stupid wife blew it.

http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2008/08/michelle_obama_4.php


10 posted on 10/16/2008 1:07:29 PM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I can’t even send a FReep mail with what’s swimming in my gray matter.


12 posted on 10/16/2008 1:10:23 PM PDT by wastedyears (Another October 14th, another year older.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

Thank you. I’ve been doing the same thing here in Alaska.

Alinsky didn’t understand that his rules CAN be used against him as well as for him. Implementing those rules can be done with truthfulness and honor. Here are a few examples that I’ve done in the past several years:
- Whenever I’m confronted with an affirmative action statement, I always check “other” and write in “human being.”
- When I meet a liberal who complains about Christians, I tell them that they need to be tolerant of diverse viewpoints.
- Whenever someone calls McCain old or stupid or forgetful, I call them out for bigotry and hatred against the old or call it “elder abuse.”
- If a liberal tells me that they’re confused, I just roll my eyes and tell them that “you just don’t get it.”
- When a gay rights activist tells me that they deserve the “right” to marry, I tell them they have no right to impose their morality on other people who disagree with them.

And on and on. Use their words back at them. Never give up. Use humor and ridicule. Alinsky isn’t for leftists any more.

Keep up the good fight.


26 posted on 10/16/2008 1:30:19 PM PDT by redpoll
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To: MeanWestTexan

I agree with the ideas here. Get people together and use directed, concentrated effort to fight them tooth and nail like they do to us. It doesn’t make us “radicals.” And unlike them, we don’t need to lie about everything always.

I’ve been thinking for a while that the way to take things back is not to try to rely on the individual states to nominate good conservatives and back them against the particularly destructive members of Congress from their state. There just are not enough resources and concentration to mount serious efforts across the entire country with every election.

Instead, perhaps, conservatives across the country should focus on a few specific representatives and senators and have everyone from all over pour their resources and effort into knocking those people out in whatever state they’re in. Picking off two or three every two years. These individuals have great influence and destructive potential on a national level so I say they’re fair game to everyone. The diffused effort approach is not working.


40 posted on 10/16/2008 1:49:55 PM PDT by According2RecentPollsAirIsGood
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To: MeanWestTexan

NO WAY.

But everyone should read these “rules” and know what we are up against.

This is why Obama made those mocking smiles last night. When you’re losing, MOCK. RIDICULE.

We need to FIGHT these people, not join them.


41 posted on 10/16/2008 1:51:14 PM PDT by Yaelle (One candidate fought America's enemies and one candidate owes all he has to America's enemies)
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To: MeanWestTexan

That’s what I’m talking about.


59 posted on 10/16/2008 3:25:19 PM PDT by Earthdweller (Socialism makes you feel better about oppressing people.....)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Rules for Radicals didn't really help Saul Alinsky personally because he DIED AND MET GOD not quite a year after the book came out. I am confident he is by now well-educated about who "Lucifer" really is.
60 posted on 10/16/2008 4:42:58 PM PDT by KStorm (MP08)
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To: MeanWestTexan

PING a ling


64 posted on 10/16/2008 7:31:30 PM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (All You Need is Money [Soros] and a Candidate Who Can Be Coached to Look Sincere [Obama]. A. Huxley)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Evil cannot be overcome with more evil. Evil can only be overcome with goodness. We are admonished to pray for our enemies. I pray that Obama's heart of stone will be melted into a heart of flesh. There's no way any truly HUMAN person could be so hateful as to permit a newborn baby, even from a 'botched' abortion, to die unattended without rendering aid. Sorry . . . about that . . . I have family members that support abortion and partial birth abortion AND allowing babies who survive partial birth abortion to be tossed, alive, into a trash heap. I pray for them all the time. One is a lapsed Catholic, one a lapsed Lutheran, and my niece was recently Confirmed in the Catholic faith in the Diocese of Wilmington, DE. But she didn't learn sound Catholic doctrine and her conscience is not conformed to the Catholic Church and the teachings of the Magisterium. It's not my nature to be mean or cruel or hateful. Even toward people I do not particularly like or agree with. I believe that prayer will work if I commit to it and pray with an "undivided heart." Psalm 86:11 NIV
68 posted on 10/17/2008 7:44:33 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (All You Need is Money [Soros] and a Candidate Who Can Be Coached to Look Sincere [Obama]. A. Huxley)
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To: MeanWestTexan; rdb3; concerned about politics

A couple of more things to keep in mind: a) Alinsky ain’t got nothin’ on Machiavelli, Genghis Khan, or Sun Tzu (to name a few), b) Lee Atwater took it right to the front door of the hippie radicals and beat the snot out of them. I’ll be studying his tactics this winter.


70 posted on 10/17/2008 5:53:43 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! (You can vote Democrat when you're dead)
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To: MeanWestTexan

RULE # 13:

Always have a gaggle of stoned, promiscuous young women handy for the guys to hook up with at the end of the rally.

Bill Ayers invented this rule. (Bill Clinton followed it.)


72 posted on 08/13/2009 6:19:01 PM PDT by Palladin (Me to Gubmint Healthcare Counselor: "Get your ass out of here or YOU will be in intensive care!")
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