Schwarzenegger, Bloomberg to campaign together (moderate "soul mates" pumping Prop 11 up)

Sac Bee ^ | 10/16/08 | Kevin Yamamura

[NormsRevenge]

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger will campaign today with New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg for Proposition 11, an initiative to change how California draws its district boundaries.

The two will appear publicly at the Los Angeles Chamber of Commerce offices, joined by representatives from AARP, California Common Cause and other organizations.

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Schwarzenegger and Bloomberg have worked together to promote federal infrastructure investment. And the Republican governor once called Bloomberg his "soul mate," a reference to their shared moderate political views.

[rabscuttle385]

Moderate RINOs ping.

[rivercat]

I hope this passes. Any idea how it’s doing in the polls?

[rivercat]

Month of Poll	Polling company	In Favor	Opposed	Undecided
July 2008	Field	42 percent	30 percent	28 percent
August 2008	PPIC	39 percent	36 percent	25 percent
Sept. 2008	PPIC	38 percent	33 percent	29 percent

[Incorrigible]

 

 

[newzjunkey]

Are you sure you want Prop 11 to pass?

There’s are plenty of endorsers from the radical left or RINOville:

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger
Steve Westly, Former State Controller

Campaign Co-Chairs
Leon Panetta and Thomas McKernan, Co Chairs, California Forward Action Fund

California Leaders
Gray Davis, Former Governor
Jim Brulte, Former CA Senate Republican Leader
Robert Hertzberg, Former CA Democrat Speaker of the Assembly

Steering Committee/Supporters
*NAACP California State Conference
ACLU - Southern California
California Democratic Council

Steering Committee/Supporters Cont.
North San Diego County NAACP

Bi-Partisan Supporters
Anaheim Democratic Club
Bay City Democrats
Bonita Democratic Council
California Log Cabin Republicans
Democratic Caucus at San Jose State University
Democrats of Central Orange County
Democrats of North Orange County
Democrats of West Orange County
Escondido Democratic Club
Lake San Marcos Democratic Club
Mesa Democrats
Newport Bay Area Democratic Club
Pacific Beach Democrats
Potrero Hill Democratic Club
Robert F. Kennedy Democratic Club
Patrick Henry Democratic Club
Pomona Valley Democratic Club
Stanford Democrats

Organizations
NAACP California State Conference
North San Diego County NAACP
Oakland Branch NAACP
Richmond Branch NAACP
San Gabriel Valley NAACP
Vallejo Branch NAACP

Elected Officials
Titles and organizations listed for identifications purposes only
Tom Bates, Mayor, City of Berkeley
Lee Baca, Sheriff, Los Angeles County
Donna Frye, Councilmember, City of San Diego
Mark Wyland, State Senator, California State Senator District 38

Individuals

Herb Engstrom, Treasurer, California Democratic Council
Judith Hess, Leader, Progressive Democrats of America
Dr. Bill Honigman, CA State Coordinator, Progressive Democrats of America
Tricia Hunter, Executive Director, American Nurses Association/California
Lucy L. Killea, Retired State Legislator
Susan Kopicki, Coordinator, Democracy for America
Andrae Macapiniac, Historian, Democratic Caucus at San Jose State University
Jim Moreno, California Democratic Party, Region 18
Steve Young, Democratic Candidate for Congress, CA 48

California Newspapers
San Jose Mercury
Fresno Bee
The Torrance Daily Breeze
San Francisco Chronicle
Los Angeles Times

[NormsRevenge]

from a month ago, no new pools available that I could find.

still up in the air..

Boosters Say Prop. 11 Would Promote Moderates
http://cbs5.com/politics/proposition.11.redistricting.2.831610.html

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But a mid-September poll by the Public Policy Institute of California found one in three voters still undecided on Proposition 11. Just 38 percent of likely voters supported it, with 33 percent opposed.

[calcowgirl]

Thx!

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Boosters Say Prop. 11 Would Promote Moderates

http://cbs5.com/politics/proposition.11.redistricting.2.831610.html

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But even some longtime redistricting supporters oppose the November initiative, such as political activist Ted Costa, the lead author of Proposition 77, the failed 2005 initiative that would have placed a panel of three retired judges in charge of drawing the districts.

He said loopholes in Proposition 11 would allow the Legislature to change the commission’s makeup and that powerful interest groups such as public employee unions could exploit the open application process to recruit ringers to serve on it.

[SierraWasp]

A couple of friends of the Wasp family in Lodi were emailing us last night asking our tendencies on the ballot measures. Then we compared and found they went for this dumb move (prop 11) after they agreed with us on all the others except the (prop 2) poor little animals being brutalized by the vicious, cruel FARMERS & RANCHERS!!!

Ads with pictures can lead so many people to vote for costly props that are just exercises in futility!!!

The whole ballot measure process has been completely bastardized to the max!!!

PLEASE PEOPLE... IF IN ANY DOUBT, VOTE NO!!!

[SierraWasp]

It's in the Bible! "By their fruits ye shall know them!"

I think it's even an ageless PROVERB!!!

Great comment "My friend!" Way to pull the covers off the other side of the isle!!!

[SierraWasp]

Ah thank you! I was trying to remember the reasons you brought forth previously to explain the terrible weakness in Prop 11 to our Lodi friends last night.

You are without a doubt one of the FReeperworld's foremost authorities on CA ballot measures. CA FReepers would all be most wise to use your knowledge AND especially your understanding as their best resource!!! Seriously!!!

[calcowgirl]

Well, this year I'm not as informed as usual. I haven't had the time to read all of the fine print to find all of the stinky stuff, as I usually do. Now, I'm relying on the strong stench I see coming from the ballot summaries to conclude a "NO" vote is in order, unless I see a compelling reason to support it.

Your advice is right on target:

PLEASE PEOPLE... IF IN ANY DOUBT, VOTE NO!!!

[dalereed]

No doubt here, i’m voting no on 2 and 11!

Just the fact that AARP is for 11 should be enough to make anyone but a devout socialist vote against it!

[goldstategop]

The California Democratic Party and leftist interest groups ARE opposing Prop. 11 for self-interested reasons. Is the reform perfect? NO! But having politicians draw the boundaries against will entrench the Democrats more and diminish minority turnout in 2012. Republicans would be locked into minority status for another decade. I suppose safe seats have their appeal to politicians who draw them but the rest of us should have the right to hire and fire legislators at will.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[goldstategop]

THE HJTA has endorsed it. If you look at the NO side - it reads like a Democratic Party front group. Californians have two choices: let the politicians pick and choose their voters again or try something different.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[goldstategop]

I read up on the NO side and its reads like a who's who of labor organizations, latino and black organizations - all the main Democrat constituencies. And of course the state Democratic establishment is AGAINST it. We all know why. I doubt it has anything to do with the way the proposition's commission is structured but rather with the fact the Democrats lose their power to draw boundaries again for partisan advantage. Remember, the people who rigged California elections to keep Democrats in power are not our friends.

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." - Manuel II Palelologus

[CounterCounterCulture]

But even some longtime redistricting supporters oppose the November initiative, such as political activist Ted Costa, the lead author of Proposition 77, the failed 2005 initiative that would have placed a panel of three retired judges in charge of drawing the districts.

He said loopholes in Proposition 11 would allow the Legislature to change the commission’s makeup and that powerful interest groups such as public employee unions could exploit the open application process to recruit ringers to serve on it.

Yeah, I was wondering about Ted's take on Prop 11.

PLEASE PEOPLE... IF IN ANY DOUBT, VOTE NO!!!

That's been my long-running philosophy.

I've been leaning No on Catch 22... er... Prop 11.