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To: GonzoGOP

“How many Americans will own firearms once Obama confiscates them.”

The only way they can confiscate them is if people let them. It’s a good thing the American colonists weren’t defeatists like the hand wringers on this site these days. If they thought like this, we would have never gained our independence. If the doom and gloom “gulag” scenario I have been reading about so much from so many in the last few weeks here does start to take shape, you have some soul searching to do. Either learn to live with it or defend the US Constitution from these treasonous bastards.


52 posted on 10/16/2008 11:24:38 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: Wolfhound777

This is a great thread about a book from 1938 that fits so much of today.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/929392/posts

Here’s an excerpt dealing with FDR’s dictatorship style:

Such is the form of the American government. The idea was that it should be a government of law, not a government of men.

In the special session called by the President to launch the New Deal the Congress for the first time was under the spell of executive leadership and embraced the leadership principle. It did not write the New Deal laws. It received them from the White House, went through the motions of passing them, engrossed them, and sent them back to the President. That was called the rubber stamp Congress. So long as it was content to keep that role everything was lovely. In the book On Our Way the President wrote: “In the early hours of June sixteenth, the Congress adjourned. I am happy once more to pay tribute to the members of the Senate and House of Representatives of both parties who so generously and loyally co-operated with me in the solution of our joint problems.”

Loyalty of the law-making power to the executive power was one of the dangers the political fathers foretold.

....... In the next regular session of Congress the spell began to break, and ever since, with increasing anxiety, it has been running after the power and prestige it surrendered. But the minute it began to do that all the New Deal’s power of propaganda was turned against it, in derision, belittlement, and defamation; and in every struggle over principle it was adroitly maneuvered into the position of seeming to stand against the people for wrong reasons, on mere pretense of principle. The attack upon Congress was designed both to undermine the parliamentary principle and to circumscribe the political rights of people.

....... Over a large part of the world today democracy has been long dead. Political processes which once assured the common man some degree of genuine participation in the decisions of his government have been superseded by a form of rule which we know as the totalitarian state. The essence of totalitarianism is the destruction of the parliamentary or legislative branch of government. The issue simply stated is whether the Congress of the United States shall be the reality or the relic of American democracy.”

No one can have forgotten the bitterness of the struggle over the New Deal’s attempt to pack the Supreme Court after it had killed the Blue Eagle. Nor can anyone who saw it forget the spectacle of C.I.O. strikers, massed in Cadillac Square, Detroit, intoning with groans the slogan prepared by New Deal propagandists: “Nine old men. Nine old men.” That was collaboration.

At this point the President suffered his first serious defeat. The Congress would not pass his court-packing law. It did not dare to EBB it. Public opinion was too much aroused. Nevertheless, it was possible two years later for the President to boast that he had won. Vacancies on the bench caused by death and retirement enabled him to fill it up with justices who were New-Deal minded, and so at last he did capture the judicial power.


54 posted on 10/16/2008 11:53:07 PM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant, Never Fearful)
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