Child support law leaves man a default dad

Tulsa World ^ | October 13, 2008 | Jarrel Wade

[RogerFGay]

It's federal:

What Pierce didn't realize, and what nearly 10 million American men have discovered to their chagrin since the welfare reform legislation of 1996, is that when the government accuses you of fathering a child, no matter how flimsy the evidence, you are one month away from having your life wrecked. source

[RogerFGay]

Yep ... that's a serious focal point of Stephen Baskerville's book Taken into Custody: The War Against Fatherhood, Marriage, and the Family. All the bad stuff that happens as a result of federal pork-barreling in domestic relations, happens to regular people who are sitting at home minding their own business, when through "no fault" of their own .. ("no fault" here is kind of a play on words, since Baskerville considers the creation of so-called "no fault" divorce to be the original sin) ... Baskerville is widely considered the top expert in family policy in the US.

[camle]

can’t let the facts get in the way of a good government sponsored lynching, now can we?

[RogerFGay]

Facts no longer matter at all. In P.O.P.S. v Gardner (1993) the 9th Federal Circuit Court of Appeals (San Francisco among others in jurisdiction - the most over-ruled fanatic left-wing federal court in the country) reclassified marriage and family law from civil law to social policy. In other words, these are not legally cherished protected institutions any longer, but parts of the welfare system that can be arbitrarily politically manipulated. Everyone is part of it, so everyone can be arbitrarily politically manipulated. This is also the reason that same-sex marriage - after more than 200 years of not being marriage - suddenly found a constitutional mandate. Under the new classification, same-sex partners have a constitutional mandate for equal access to government programs - which is now what marriage is from a legal perspective - just another government program.

[FrogMom]

If the mother was “in another relationship at the same time”, SHE doesn’t even know.

This sucks, the guy is being railroaded.

[RSmithOpt]

It's called BABCORN in the US.....just a means for state elitist thugs state to unjustly slap a non-father man with payments for the woman's promiscuity.

The same BS occurs here in NC. Bad law in any case and the states refuse to do anything about it. It is akin to false imprisonment and then being cleared by DNA tests.

[sbMKE]

The woman should pay restitution.

[RSmithOpt]

Not only that, I read a case a while back where a factory worker got pregnant and named a young single engineer in the company as the father. They never even dated, went out together....the woman lied; DNA tests showed the young man 0.0% the father; the state still slapped the support payment to the male. Go figure.

[neefer]

It's a hip-hop reference from the ‘80s and promiscuous gold diggers are still a theme of today's rap music. The baby-mama culture and it's relationship with government is depressing.

“You will see him on TV any given Sunday
Win the Superbowl and drive off in a Hyundai.

She was suppose to buy your shorty TYCO with your money,
She went to the doctor, got lypo with your money.”

[E=MC2]

the courts just want to wash their hands of it so the state doesn’t have to pay the woman to raise her child.

I think this was part of the republican welfare reform. To deny welfare benefits unless the father was named.

[wtc911]

Research is easy. Do your homework.

Mr. Gay has acknowledged in past threads that he is in fact the very same one who writes (exclusively on child support issues)from Sweden.

Why do I persist? Simple, I think that any guy who walks away from financial support for his own kids is no man,

[RogerFGay]

It’s driven by federal funding - an intentionally corrupt pork-barreling scheme.

[wtc911]

Not the same guy? His own resume shows him living in Sweden and writing for MensNews Online.

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/5910/Job_Related/Rogers_Resume_2006_SV.htm

[laotzu]

Wow!! That’s good stalking.

[wtc911]

Stalking? I guess the cop in me recognizes bullshit when it shows up. A two minute search proved him a liar.

[An American In Dairyland]

LOL. So true. I concur with Reagan ...trust but verify. The only women I completely trust are my grandma, my mom, my sister, my cat and my dog. End of story.

Not a bad idea. I think a return to old-fashioned behavior would end a lot of this thing. That is, two people get married, then they have sex but only with their marriage partner. It didn't prevent all men from cuckoldry but it worked for a very large percentage of them. All of this rutting around like wild dogs going from dog to dog to dog is a large part of the "paternity problem."

[PapaBear3625]

No, I am a man who shoulders his responsibilities

The point of the article is that this man is NOT the biological father, yet is ordered to pay support for a kid who is not his. Did you even read the article?

[RogerFGay]

how do we know that the real father isn’t still with the child and standing to enjoy the fruits of the scam?

It's known to happen often enough. Even when children are born within marriage, the mother files for divorce, and within some "reasonable" lenght of time is living with someone else - the children could very well be those of the new guy - the result of an affair during the old marriage. He just laid low until the dust died down and the scheme gives them a higher total income.

[RogerFGay]

I hope the guy manages to somehow get out of this mess.

There is no way out.

[An American In Dairyland]

Why do I persist? Simple, I think that any guy who walks away from financial support for his own kids is no man.

I am a woman who writes only on "men's issues" on the internet. Does that mean I'm a "deadbeat dad" too?

You said above you "think." From what I've seen of your writing here, I doubt it very much.