Child support law leaves man a default dad

Tulsa World ^ | October 13, 2008 | Jarrel Wade

[gogeo]

I guess that's acknowledgement that I got it right. wtc911 is pushing the same-sex marriage agenda. The child support reform stuff was the the core of the war against fathers, which was the advance attack on marriage and family. The eventual result was reclassification of marriage and family law such that it produced a constitutional mandate for same-sex marriage. wtc911 doesn't want anyone to understand that. He's trying to avoid political pressure to fix the problem...

It's working.

[RogerFGay]

So, your claim is that you’re just common lying pond scum without any particular reason. You’re weak man - now you’re nothing because you won’t keep your word.

[RogerFGay]

It's working.

Not nearly as well as it used to.

[neefer]

Can’t say I’m a big fan of Kanye’s politics, but can’t deny he’s a clever lyrists.

[gogeo]

That is absolutely true. So why don't all of you men protesting this injustice run out on November 4th and vote for a woman who has already *proven* she thinks she has the personal and *official* right to decide a man's and his children's lives for them? The word irony doesn't begin to cover this...

HUH??????

[E=MC2]

John McCain keeps muttering “I don’t understand why these decent people keep launching vicious attacks”.

He does not admit that he is in a battle against evil. They are all his good friends.

[RogerFGay]

He does not admit that he is in a battle against evil. They are all his good friends.

He's a big government Washington insider trying to run as a reform minded outsider - just like Obama.

[neefer]

Thanks for the link. “The reasons for unconstitutional federal intrusion into family policy are known – pork, pork, and pork.”

[E=MC2]

Last Friday at a townhall meeting he went on his ‘Obama is a decent person’ rant in response to a participant that said he was angry that we were not standing up to the socialist Obama.

This morning on Glen Beck, Glen brought up the person and the issue (very politely). McCain punted.

[AbolishCSEU]

In the great state of NY it’s up to 25 years

[RogerFGay]

Yep. McCain doesn’t have what it takes to navigate this kind of manipulative environment. He’s yielding to the manipulations and that puts the other side in charge. He can’t win without fighting, and he can’t fight without being characterized as “mean” and “angry” and such. What McCain needs is some fathers’ rights guys who’ve been through all this worse that he is for the past 20 years. But ... of course ... that’s another place he’s afraid to go.

[No.6]

“It’s implementation of federal law, backed by 10s of billions in federal money.”

Your scale is a bit off; the figure you quote is roughly the total $ passing through the child support system nationwide, not fedgov’s impact.

“Currently, the federal government pays states incentive funds based on their level of child support performance. These incentive payments are capped at $458 million in fiscal year 2006 and divided among the states according to their performance on five measures.”

http://74.125.95.104/search?q=cache:Pjd65drNrcsJ:www.clasp.org/publications/child_support_cuts.pdf+federal+child+support+incentives&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us

Again, your basic point has merit (the states get paid incentives to establish orders) but the feds don’t dictate insanity like this nor is the scale of fed money 10s of billions.

[Pan_Yan]

I just read through this Machiavellian mine field of a thread. It has more subplots than a Salman Rushdie novel. May I ask a few questions? I promise I am asking them in sincerity.

Is the man in the article a dead beat dad?

If he is not, should the law be changed to protect his rights?

[RogerFGay]

California’s share of incentive payments back before the recall was about $50 million. I remember quoting Gray Davis. That’s just the incentive part, however, if states do not implement and enforce all the federal mandates they lose all related funding; which amounts to closer to $10 billion a year.

[RogerFGay]

Just checked - in California, it was $40 million

[seemoAR]

Good luck with that question. Maybe his girl friends husband doesn’t want to support his kid. ;0)