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Mexican Marijuana Cartels Sully US Forests, Parks
ABC News ^ | October 11, 2008 | TRACIE CONE

Posted on 10/11/2008 2:31:25 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana

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To: Tennessee Nana

So now when do we see headless bodies show up in Yellowstone?


41 posted on 10/11/2008 10:45:04 PM PDT by Dallas59 (Just Say NObama!)
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To: Tennessee Nana

No, I am talking about my county alone.


42 posted on 10/11/2008 11:34:53 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: Just Lori
Well your NO VOTE helps to get the greater of the 2 evils elected. Sleep well.

That's your assumption. I never stated I wouldn't be voting. I only stated I don't vote for socialists. Voting for the "lesser of two evils" still begets evil. Your statement is a tacit admission you're not willing to stop it dead in its track and by association condone such a philosophy. That is exactly what socialists are hoping will happen. I couldn't sleep knowing that I was supporting socialists to destroy the country.
43 posted on 10/12/2008 4:37:06 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D; All

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44 posted on 10/12/2008 5:18:24 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (McCain/Palin Now that's a ticket that deserves a tagline)
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To: Tennessee Nana; bamahead

SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT! End the war on (some) drugs and RE-LEGALIZE marijuana!


45 posted on 10/15/2008 8:56:10 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc

Got this email this morning. Seems to apply to BOTH of the current crop of “candidates”:

Subject: THINGS THAT “CHANGE

This e-mail reflects on all politicians Republicans & Democrats, Etc. alike.

Subject: Change and changes already made

Not long ago I read a joke . It said all the politicians running for
president are promising change to the American people.

We send them billions and billions of tax dollars and they send us the change.

That got me to thinking ... They all promise change; How about if they run on
a promise of restoration rather than change.

A restoration that would take us back in time to a place where things ran better, smoother and life was
more enjoyable. Change? That, in truth, is what they have been giving us all along.

We used to have a strong dollar . Politicians changed that.

We used to be respected around the world .. Politicians changed that.

We used to have a strong manufacturing economy ... Politicians changed that.

We used to have lower tax structures ... Politicians changed that.

We used to enjoy more freedoms ... Politicians changed that.

We used to be a large exporter of American made goods ... Politicians changed that.

We used to teach patriotism in schools ... Politicians changed that.

We used to educate children in schools ... Politicians changed that.

We used pray in school... Politicians changed t hat.

We used to enjoy freedom of speech ... Politicians changed that.

We used to enforce LEGAL citizenship .. Politicians changed that.

We used to have affordable food & gas prices .. Politicians changed that,
too. ... and one could go on and on with this list.

What hasn’t been changed, politicians are promising to change that as well
if you will elect them.

When, oh when, is America going to sit back with open eyes and look at what
we once were and where we have come and say, enough is enough?

The trouble is, Americas youthful voters today don’t know of the great
America that existed forty and fifty years ago. They see the world as if it
has always existed, as it is now.

And what about those of us that remember what America was about—Have we all become apathetic; with
a ‘Who Gives A Damn Anymore’!

When will we wake up? Tomorrow may be too late. When will America realize:
‘That Politicians and Special Interest Groups that constantly Spout: ‘It’s not Fair’
are what is wrong with America ?

PASS THIS ONE AROUND FOR A CHANGE


46 posted on 10/15/2008 9:08:09 AM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dennisw

They do that in Iran. It doesn’t work there.


47 posted on 10/15/2008 1:53:41 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: dennisw

Doesn’t work in Singapore or China or even the Mid-East. Somebody ALWAYS steps up to take up the cudgel of dealing drugs. You RE-legalize, you take away the mega-profits and the motive for stuff like this. But the producers and dealers have useful idiots who clamor for tougher laws against (some) drugs and we wind up where we are and where much of Mexico is these days. So how does it feel to be helping to line the pockets of the drug cartels? At the expense of your fellow Americans, need I add?


48 posted on 10/15/2008 3:36:23 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc

I don’t believe that libertarian bull. Drugs are not inevitable. You just kill the dealers


49 posted on 10/15/2008 4:35:59 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: Nate505

see 49


50 posted on 10/15/2008 4:36:42 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: dennisw

It’s worked really well in China and Singapore and the Mid East, hasn’t it?

Maybe DRUGS aren’t inevitable, but some form of ingestible escape aid IS, whether it be alcohol, pot or heroin. It goes all through recorded history. As do the activities of bluenoses who can’t abide the notion that someone, somewhere is enjoying himself. But in modern times, the self-important idiots who love the control over others’ lives do an even greater evil, for they do the bidding, wittingly or otherwise, of the drug cartels in keeping their markets open and exclusive. AS YOU SHOULD WELL KNOW, having been educated over time on this very site. So you are doing the bidding of the drug lords, like it or not. And hurting every other American in the process.


51 posted on 10/15/2008 4:57:03 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc

What effin’ crap. To repeat. I am not a libertarian who believes in “drug inevitability” You are blinded. You are in awe of third world intoxicants that destroy brain functions


52 posted on 10/15/2008 6:03:32 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: dennisw

I KNOW you’re not a libertarian... or even a Constitutionalist. We’ve had this discussion before. You are a statist authoritarian bent on helping the drug lords keep their monopoly on drug distribution and keep the profits flowing. All at the expense of ALL OTHER AMERICANS. You are a control freak who wants to kill people who disagree with you...

What I am is someone who does NOT believe I have a moral right to determine how others should live, at the point of a government gun. I believe that the Founders of this nation did NOT intend for that sort of country. They had just thrown off the yoke of a British tyrant who thought much as YOU do... that he could make the colonists do any damned thing he wanted them to do, by pointing his Redcoats’ guns at them and making them pee on themselves from fright. But he had to learn a most expensive, didn’t he, about how NOT frightened the citizens of the new nation were. Is THAT what you control freaks want? Another bloody revolution to end all the controls you want in place? ‘Cause it’s not at all just about what someone ingests. No, indeed, it’s ALL the controls that build on each other. First this, then another, and another, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.


53 posted on 10/15/2008 6:15:17 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dcwusmc

I’m a statist.... Wow... I’m devastated!
Just execute the drug dealers and get this show over with. Drugs are stupid and so is any drug culture. So execute those who deal methedrine and worse. No quarter for them


54 posted on 10/15/2008 6:20:01 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: dcwusmc
What I am is someone who does NOT believe I have a moral right to determine how others should live, at the point of a government gun.

I differ from you.
I believe government has a moral right and duty to execute meth, crack and heroin dealers

55 posted on 10/15/2008 6:22:04 PM PDT by dennisw (Never bet on Islam! ::::: Never bet on a false prophet!)
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To: dennisw

I know. You say it loudly and often, which is why I think you are not only on the wrong website, but in the wrong COUNTRY. A thorough reading of the Constitution and the Founders’ other writings makes it reasonably obvious that they intended to give government no more authority than each INDIVIDUAL had to run his own life. If an individual could not legitimately do something, he could NOT get government to do it either. And, needless to say, killing those who did something they didn’t like was NOT a legitimate power of ANY individual. So they could NOT get government to do it for them. Nor could they keep someone from ingesting things they didn’t approve of. So THAT went out the window. Just because FedGov has been using the Constitution as toilet paper for the past many years doesn’t mean that we won’t ever get it restored to its rightful place in this country. And the likes of you will not likely find a place for your control-freakism. Too bad, so sad, huh? Such “authority,” which isn’t yours to give, will be GONE from this once-again-great nation and we can then allow the PROPER people to try to eliminate drug usage: the families and the churches who, like you, too often seek government “solutions” to what should be THEIR problems to solve.


56 posted on 10/15/2008 7:06:04 PM PDT by dcwusmc (We need to make government so small that it can be drowned in a bathtub.)
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To: dennisw

I heard you the first time. And once again, they do that in Iran. And once again, they have a very large heroin problem.

Maybe you want to live in a country that has laws like Iran, but I don’t. Especially because in this case, they are ineffective.


57 posted on 10/15/2008 10:10:20 PM PDT by Nate505
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To: dennisw
http://www.parstimes.com/news/archive/2004/state/narcotics_report_2003.html

Drug offenses are under the jurisdiction of the Revolutionary Courts. Punishment for narcotics offenses is severe, with death sentences possible for possession of more than 30 grams of heroin or five kilograms of opium. Those convicted of lesser offenses may be punished with imprisonment, fines, or lashings, although it is believed that lashings have been used less frequently in recent years. Offenders between the ages of 16 and 18 are afforded some leniency. More than 60 percent of the inmates in Iranian prisons are incarcerated for drug offenses, ranging from use to trafficking. Narcotics-related arrests in Iran during 2002 remained high at 118,819 persons, but are down sharply from a peak reached in 2001. Iran has executed more than 10,000 narcotics traffickers in the last decade; executions continue, but the UNODC reports that many in the Iranian judiciary are questioning the deterrent effect of executions.

They've executed over 10,000 drug smugglers, yet they continue to keep smuggling! Not that's it's a shock to anyone with common sense. You see, people who don't have money will actually risk their life for it! Amazing, but true! And even the hard ass mullahs are questioning the policy. Probably because if you've been executing thousands of people for a decade and the problem hasn't gone away, the deterrent effect just doesn't seem to be there.

58 posted on 10/15/2008 10:16:09 PM PDT by Nate505
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