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Cobb police add tank to arsenal
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^
| Oct 10, 2008
| DERRICK MAHONE
Posted on 10/10/2008 10:47:06 PM PDT by microgood
Don’t be surprised to see an Army tank rolling down a street near you.
The Cobb County police department has refurbished a donated Armored Personnel Carrier for officers to use in SWAT situations.
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BOB ANDRES / bandres@ajc.com
Cobb police have a new tank. The vehicle is being driven by Detective Steve Brawner as Sgt. Lester Maddox directs him into position. Cobb County police unveil its new crime-fighting machine, The L.A.V. 300 (Light Armored Vehicle) at Marietta Square on Saturday.
The vehicle, which retails for $500,000, is a Light Armor Vehicle that was used by the U.S. Army in Panama. The county paid $45,000 to upgrade the vehicle for police use.
Equipped with thermal sensors, computerized tracking devices, night vision, tear gas launchers and other gadgets, the all-black six-wheel unit can hold up to nine SWAT officers.
It has a new engine and transmission, which will allow it to reach a speed of 60 miles per hour.
“In these times, you don’t know what you are facing,” Cobb police chief George Hatfield said. “We want the maximum safety for our officers and the public. We want to be prepared for whatever comes up. This is another tool that will allow us to be quicker and faster in our response.”
Since 2000, SWAT has used a Peacekeeper vehicle on calls. The APC will allow SWAT officers to get closer to dangerous situations and transport citizens out of them. If officers are tracking a suspect, they can do so from within the vehicle. So far this year, Cobb’s SWAT team has responded to about 50 calls.
Walker County is the only other police department in Georgia with a similar vehicle. Gwinnett County and the state patrol use the LENCO vehicle, which resembles an armored truck. Clayton County has a Peacekeeper vehicle.
“You always hope that you don’t have to use it, but this is becoming a fact of life,” SWAT commander Lt. Joel Preston said. “You have to be prepared and make the situation safer.”
Once SWAT members complete training on the APC, the Peacekeeper will be refurbished for future use.
“These two units will eventually work in tandem,” said Det. Steve Brawner, who has overseen the project.
Beginning at 10 a.m. Saturday, the APC will be on display at Marietta’s town square.
TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: apc; banglist; donutwatch; jackbootedthugs; leo; policestate; swat; wod
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To: ansel12
It is a bullet proof vehicle. Not with all thiose open doors & hatches. *<];-)
In the 1960s, the California National Guard parked its tanks --real tanks, not APCs-- 'under' & next to a freeway overpass during Berkeley riots, leaving the turret hatches open over night.
Fortunately, none of the stoners had the brains or stones to drop some Molotovs straight down into them.
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posted on
10/11/2008 12:20:24 AM PDT
by
ApplegateRanch
(The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
To: microgood
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posted on
10/11/2008 12:25:19 AM PDT
by
maine-iac7
("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
To: rednesss
Thanks for posting that picture. The image was starting to fade in many Americans minds. This is what to expect under an 0bama presidency.
panax
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posted on
10/11/2008 12:28:51 AM PDT
by
panaxanax
(Writing in John Bolton/Sarah Palin in 2008!)
To: microgood
cops are getting surplus military equipment and actually thinking they have a use for itThe will have if we don't send "the ONE" packing. Think a Marxist takeover can't happen here? read the links in post # 22
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posted on
10/11/2008 12:31:44 AM PDT
by
maine-iac7
("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
To: ozzymandus
, and it will be broken down most of the time. Eventually (Id guess about two years from now), Obama plans on having a NATIONAL POLICE FORCE and says it's to have as many police as are currently in the military - and with as much funding.
YOu think it's an accident that these military weapons are being "given" to police depts. around the country?
Listen to him in his own words in video link in post # 22
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posted on
10/11/2008 12:35:34 AM PDT
by
maine-iac7
("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
To: microgood
>>”The vehicle, which retails for $500,000, is a Light Armor Vehicle that was used by the U.S. Army in Panama. The county paid $45,000 to upgrade the vehicle for police use.”<<
WOW! I would think that a used armored car from Brinks would have served the same purpose. Why in the world would a civilian police department have to spend an extra $45,000 to “upgrade” a military vehicle already designed for war? Is the civilian population more dangerous than a trained foreign military?
We are racing towards the U.S.S.A. Police State and there’s not a damned thing we can do about it.
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posted on
10/11/2008 12:37:00 AM PDT
by
panaxanax
(Writing in John Bolton/Sarah Palin in 2008!)
To: ApplegateRanch
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posted on
10/11/2008 12:40:00 AM PDT
by
maine-iac7
("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
To: Blogger
Looks like I’d better start stocking up (mainly on Vodka and 7.62)
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posted on
10/11/2008 12:48:59 AM PDT
by
smokingfrog
(God doesn't wear a wristwatch.)
To: ansel12
News reporters call anything with armor a “tank”, and this one isn’t even armed - no gun tube. It even has wheels!
It’d be nice if even a few of them had Army or Maine experience and could tell the difference. They even use the term “semi-automatic machine gun”.
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posted on
10/11/2008 3:30:31 AM PDT
by
R. Scott
(Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
To: maine-iac7
Calm down! The Army and Marine Corps has plenty of ordnance to take out this “tank.” They’re on our side and will loan us what’s needed.
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posted on
10/11/2008 5:43:27 AM PDT
by
sergeantdave
(We are entering the Age of the Idiot)
To: microgood
“Because you never know when Mariettas going to turn into Fallujah.”
Or, Lexington & Concord.
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posted on
10/11/2008 5:46:48 AM PDT
by
John W
(Lord Barry heal the bitter ones)
To: higgmeister
Trust me, anything good in Marietta gets given to City of Atlanta anyway.
Splain yourself Lucy. I don’t know of one thing we have given to Atlanta.
Lucy was responding to the forum string jokes about use of tank or gift of tank Nov. 5th. lots of joking going on here.
To: PLMerite; archy
"Great, the dummies will think they can take it on the highway." That reminds me of the good old days when we held M48 Tank races on US Highway 101.
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posted on
10/11/2008 11:19:47 AM PDT
by
An Old Man
("The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they suppress." Douglas)
To: microgood
There is no rational need for any police department to have one of these.
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posted on
10/11/2008 11:30:27 AM PDT
by
wastedyears
(Now sadly living in the DPRNYC [Brooklyn])
To: An Old Man
Great, the dummies will think they can take it on the highway." That reminds me of the good old days when we held M48 Tank races on US Highway 101
He wore black denim trousers and motorcycle boots
And a black leather jacket with an eagle on the back
He had a hopped-up 'cicle Patton that took off like a gun
That fool was the terror of Highway 101....
-slight revision of Black Denim Trousers and Motorcycle Boots, by The Cheers, words and music by Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller. Charted around #6 in 1955.
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posted on
10/11/2008 12:06:21 PM PDT
by
archy
(Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
To: An Old Man
“That reminds me of the good old days when we held M48 Tank races on US Highway 101.”
Yeah, but I bet you knew what you were going!
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posted on
10/11/2008 12:08:12 PM PDT
by
PLMerite
("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
To: microgood
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posted on
10/11/2008 12:11:46 PM PDT
by
mysterio
To: pepsionice
The amusing thing...having worked with a former Army tanker...is that tanks break down often Our M48 and M60 tanks required around 4 hours of maintenance for every hour of operation. The Abrams is up arouds 8:1 for maint/ops hours. I doubt that many of the Georgia cops come even close to the attitude and temperment required for operating and maintaining an armored vehicle over any extended period, much less combat. They';ll use it on a raid or two, set it up for a media magnet at a high-profile roadblock here or there, but if they try using it in any sort of really serious trouble, it'll wind up in worse condition than many of the Strykers in Iraq have.
Maybe the cop-crew inside will get out, if they've practiced their egress drills and have cover when they need it. Maybe they won't.
![](http://www.combatreform2.com/rpgtoaststrykercloser.jpg)
![](http://img.coxnewsweb.com/B/03/93/37/image_7637933.jpg)
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posted on
10/11/2008 12:15:07 PM PDT
by
archy
(Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
To: panaxanax
Why in the world would a civilian police department have to spend an extra $45,000 to upgrade a military vehicle already designed for war? Cop radios and a nice paint job, most likely. And I bet there's some hardware for their new toy included on the list.
If the cops figure that things are about to be so bad that they need military armored cars, it's time for the citizens they work for to make a few similar preparations.
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posted on
10/11/2008 12:19:06 PM PDT
by
archy
(Et Thybrim multo spumantem sanguine cerno. [from Virgil's *Aeneid*.])
To: maine-iac7
Obama plans on having a NATIONAL POLICE FORCE and says it's to have as many police as are currently in the military - and with as much funding. The Founders were much afraid of the idea of "standing armies", if you read the Federalist Papers and Anti-Federalist Papers. The reason they didn't like standing armies was because the military was used to enforce the will of the King against his subjects in the colonial days. Their ideal was to have the federal government be UNABLE to enforce its will without the active cooperation of state and local authorities
Their ideal was for there to be a militia composed of all the people, which could enforce the laws the people agreed with, and oppose measures that they considered tyranny, and for the government to not have standing, full time forces that could be used to oppress the people.
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posted on
10/11/2008 12:22:10 PM PDT
by
PapaBear3625
("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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