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To: Osage Orange

Get Barrons and take your pick. The SEC was supposed to disclose the holdings of the hedge funds including short positions. AFAIK it has not happened yet. $50 billion in capital times a minimum of 10 x leverage. They have potentially $500 billion available if not more with Middle East money and possibly money from China.

Goldman, Bear, Lehman, Morgan foolishly were allowed to go from 10 to 1 to 20, 30 and 40 to 1.

The other things is is one knows another is doing it the gang jumps in. Most of it done at CBOE and CME in Chicago. Also the source of the trades and data. If you understand the data flow - you have a big edge.


82 posted on 10/09/2008 5:17:40 PM PDT by Frantzie
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To: Frantzie
Something like $8.3 TRILLION in "paper losses" for the year out there....in U.S. exchanges.

That's $8,300 billion....

$500 billion is a lot of money....but not in the case of the markets.

My points to you have been the same...there are no hard facts that point to Soros.

And I don't think Soros could "manage" this type of "perfect storm".....

IMO, lot's of things have come together. I'm also of the opinion it's never as good as "they" say...or as "bad".

We shall see, what we shall see......

89 posted on 10/10/2008 6:42:35 AM PDT by Osage Orange (" I did not have radical relations with that man, William Ayers. " -Barack Hussein Obama)
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