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To: Osage Orange

Personally, I find no particular reason to disagree with the Center for Immigration Studies, an anti-immigration (legal and illegal) group, which thinks the number is somewhere between 11.1M and 11.5M, with their best guess as 11.3M.

They believe there is evidence that the number has actually dropped somewhat in the last year or so, as more people have returned to their home countries than have entered the country.

I am perfectly well aware that making an accurate count is not possible. Why so many others think this means the official number must be undercounted by 100% to 300% is quite beyond me.

Frankly, this sort of “thinking” reminds me of the hysteria about missing children back in the 80s(?). We were told repeatedly by the media that 20,000 children disappeared every year, with the implication that 20,000 were abducted by strangers for purposes of sexual deviancy and in all likelihood murdered.

When the dust finally settled on the discussion, it was found that almost all of the “20,000” were teenage runaways or children involved in custody disputes. The actual number of young children abducted by strangers for sexual purposes is more likely in the range of 20 to 50 per year. Far too many, of course, but a huge difference from 20,000.


134 posted on 10/08/2008 6:53:48 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Even if your 10 million estimate was accurate, that would mean there are over 10 MAJOR cities in America filled with nothing but illegal aliens.

lol

136 posted on 10/08/2008 7:00:53 PM PDT by dragnet2 (We witnessed the biggest expansion of government in American history)
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To: Sherman Logan
Certainly there is some "hysteria" on the subject.....but I'd guess the number is unknowable...and way more than is guessed.

Why would we agree with anyone's "guess"? Because that is all it is....A guess.

I guess....: ) it's more like 18-20 million.

Only based on 30 years of anecdotal evidence.

I lived in SOCAL for years and years.....finished concrete with illegals in the late 70's....Watched illegals take over the construction industry there.

Moved to OK...and watched the same EXACT thing happen here....albeit in a lighter way.

But I could be as wrong as the C.I.S. or as right.....

The point is...no one really knows............

In reality you don't know, nor to I.

138 posted on 10/08/2008 7:04:31 PM PDT by Osage Orange (" I did not have radical relations with that man, William Ayers. " -Barack Hussein Obama)
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