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To: unixfox

Uh, yes, in fact it is.

If this were just limited to one market, it wouldn’t be a “sky is falling” situation.

But the markets all over the world are selling off hard, and there’s no resolution in sight to the banking crisis.

Too many people here on FR kept thinking that the signs in the markets for the last year were MSM doom-n-gloom. Some of us kept telling people here that they should be looking at the bond markets, that there were bad, bad signs out there.

Some people were banned from FR because they were deemed too “doom-n-gloom” and alarmist.

Well, get ready for President Obama, because what you’re seeing is a for-real market crash. Stocks, bonds, commodities, you name it. Everything is being sold and sold hard. McCain clearly is out of his depth on this issue and just hasn’t a clue how to respond.

What you’re seeing is a deflation as a result of de-leveraging. If this isn’t turned around soon and consumers are convinced to spend, you will see at least a very bad recession.


44 posted on 10/06/2008 7:55:50 AM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave
What you’re seeing is a deflation as a result of de-leveraging,/i>

I've been following your posts for the past few weeks and you seem very knowledgeable - can you please explain what you mean by this.

83 posted on 10/06/2008 8:02:45 AM PDT by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: NVDave
What you're seeing is a deflation as a result of de-leveraging.

That's exactly the root cause, but today's specific problem is that Europe has turned financially protectionist. Basically each country is trying to protect its own savers at the expense of other countries' creditors. In a spiral now that Germany flipped yesterday.

98 posted on 10/06/2008 8:06:14 AM PDT by palmer (Some third party malcontents don't like Palin because she is a true conservative)
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To: NVDave
McCain clearly is out of his depth on this issue and just hasn’t a clue how to respond.

And Obama does??! That's not your implication, is it?

I doubt if the man could balance a checkbook. An economist he ain't.

142 posted on 10/06/2008 8:21:32 AM PDT by grellis (SISTERHOOD OF SARAH God. Guns. Hockey.)
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To: NVDave

Totally agree. Plus here comes deflation big time.


195 posted on 10/06/2008 8:40:27 AM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: NVDave

my worry isn’t the mortgage problem per se, it’s the cascade effect in the short and mid term markets. banks aren’t even lending to each other right now and THAT is very bad.


251 posted on 10/06/2008 9:01:41 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (No prisoners. No mercy. Fight back or STFU!!!)
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To: NVDave

Totally agree. Plus here comes deflation big time.


265 posted on 10/06/2008 9:09:06 AM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: NVDave

“What you’re seeing is a deflation as a result of de-leveraging. If this isn’t turned around soon and consumers are convinced to spend, you will see at least a very bad recession.”

Yup. What you’re seeing is the massive destruction of debt by the capital markets.

Perhaps next time we’ll learn.


428 posted on 10/06/2008 5:15:09 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
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