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Exclusive: Obama to hit McCain on Keating scandal
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Posted on 10/05/2008 7:37:18 PM PDT by Chet 99

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) on Monday will launch a multimedia campaign to draw attention to the involvement of Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in the “Keating Five” savings-and-loan scandal of 1989-91, which blemished McCain’s public image and set him on his course as a self-styled reformer.

Pushing back against what it calls “guilt-by-association” tactics by McCain, the Obama campaign is e-mailing millions of supporters a link to a website, KeatingEconomics.com, that will have a 13-minute documentary on the scandal beginning at noon Eastern time on Monday. The overnight e-mails urge recipients to pass the link on to friends.

The Obama campaign, including its surrogates appearing on radio and television, will argue that the deregulatory fervor that caused massive, cascading savings-and-loan collapses in the last ‘80s was pursued by McCain throughout his career, and helped cause the current credit crisis.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008; keating; keating5; keatingfive; mccain; obama; stevebisatroll
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To: Chet 99
I LOVE IT!!! THIS IS GREAT NEWS!

This allows McCain to join Palin in exposing the hidden 0bomber while insulating against the "going negative" charge.

I would bring up each and every terrorist connection, racist mentor, shady money deal, radical group & un-American action BHO has ever participated in. Let the electorate know how dangerously radical Barry is - DON'T HOLD BACK ON ANY INFORMATION.

141 posted on 10/05/2008 9:07:22 PM PDT by Nasher (BHO: His most memorable work is a biography of his favorite subject: Himself!)
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To: Chet 99
helped cause the current credit crisis.

Whoa, now there's a whopper!
142 posted on 10/05/2008 9:09:15 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: Chet 99

bttt


143 posted on 10/05/2008 9:09:19 PM PDT by timestax
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To: PhiKapMom
"As for Rezko, sounds like he is trying to cut a deal with the US Attorneys and yes I believe it could cause major problems for Obama."

Take that to the bank!

This is why the Drive-Bys are ignoring Rezko almost completely. Obama is in up to his eyebrows, and almost guaranteed to be indicted if Rezko should cave, and I think there's about a 70% chance he will, since all of Soros money will do nothing for a soft, pampered Syrian that is headed to hard time in a federal pen.

144 posted on 10/05/2008 9:09:24 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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To: timestax

145 posted on 10/05/2008 9:09:40 PM PDT by timestax
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To: Nasher

Folks at Huffington are nutting up over the FOX broadcasts tonite. Their reliance on the Keating stuff tells me that they are going to a gunfight with a knife.
Yuk Yuk


146 posted on 10/05/2008 9:11:11 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: Chet 99
"A week spent discussing Ayers and Charles Keating is better than a week discussing economic upheaval."

Ain't that the truth, especially since all the convictions in that case were Dems, which McCain can easily point out.

147 posted on 10/05/2008 9:11:23 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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To: Chet 99

You have to admire the efficiency of their organization, though. McCain’s campaign and whatever irregulars he has are going to have fun trying to keep up with countering this horses***. But every half truth and red herring is a golden opportunity to hit back even harder with the TRUTH.


148 posted on 10/05/2008 9:12:00 PM PDT by dr_who
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To: clintonh8r

it’s already set back but not held accountable


149 posted on 10/05/2008 9:12:50 PM PDT by wardaddy (everyone has underestimated the media and their bias, it's killing us)
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To: Nasher
The Cloward-Piven Strategy
The "Luciferian Rules" Tactics

Click the links -- Send them to everyone: media, elected officials of all parties, campaign organizers, friends, family, neighbors -- the naive and unsuspecting Obama supporters you know.

Read the evidence indicating that Barack Obama seeks to grow government either directly into socialism, or into economic collapse, in order to bring an ACORN-agitated Socialist revolution. That was the goal of Saul Alinsky. That is the Cloward-Piven Strategy apparently of Frank Marshall Davis, Khalid Abdullah Tariq al-Mansour, ACORN, William Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, et. al., who have played such essential roles in the development of both the private and public Barack Obama.

James Simpson, a former White House economist, has just published "Barack Obama & the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis" - on AmericanThinker.com at http://www.americanthinker.com/ 2008/09/barack_obama_and_the_strategy.html

Listen to this Interview of James Simpson, by Sandy Rios, Tuesday 9/30 - WYLL 1160AM, Chicago, IL
From http://www.culturecampaign.com/culturecorner.aspx

Further documentation connecting the dots of all the neo-Marxists who have invested in the development of Barack Obama may be found on discoverthenetworks.org

Simpson documents his research in his article, providing Web links. He provides a rough flow chart.


"CHANGE"

Let's change things for these anti-American Marxists.

Give everyone in America a new vocabulary term: The Cloward-Piven Strategy.

150 posted on 10/05/2008 9:12:55 PM PDT by unspun (Web search: "Cloward-Piven AND Obama" - get the truth out to all GOP officials & conservative media.)
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To: fantom

OK FOLKS....
Here it comes...

This was posted on KOS a short while ago, entitled “30 Lies Refuted about Ayers and Obama”

Most of the “refutations” consist of “Obama Wouldn’t DO THAT!”, and don’t provide much in the way of FACTS, but since it’s on KOS, exect it to be this week’s Media “Proof” that McCain is lying...

All right Freepers, time to slice and dice this crap! Have at it!

30 Lies Refuted about Ayers and Obama

LIE: “My view is that the community organizer was really a sham event. Bill Ayers was testing him.”(Andy Martin, Hannity’s America, October 5, 2008, “Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism”)
TRUTH: Bill Ayers had nothing to do with Obama’s community organizing job. It’s pure lunacy to imagine that Ayers was “testing” Obama.

LIE: Obama’s “community organizing is a grand scheme perpetuated by none other than William Ayers.”(Sean Hannity, Hannity’s America, October 5, 2008, “Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism”)
TRUTH: Obama’s community organizing was not a vast conspiracy for revolution devised by Bill Ayers.

LIE: “They live half a mile from William Ayers, the unrepentant terrorist” and “Just a half a mile from those homes is Louis Farrakhan.”(Hannity’s America, October 5, 2008, “Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism”)
TRUTH: It’s true, of course, that Obama lives in this same neighborhood, as do tens of thousands of other people who presumably are also guilty by geographical association. The logic of this argument would be, if you live half a mile from a sex offender, then you agree with child molesters.

LIE: Obama and Ayers “appeared together at various public engagements...it would seem that they are more than just a little bit friendly.”(Sean Hannity, Hannity’s America, October 5, 2008, “Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism”)
TRUTH: Appearing on a speaking panel is not a sign of friendship. There is no evidence that Obama had any role in ever inviting Ayers to speak.

LIE: In 1995, Ayers and Dohrn “hosted a political coming out party for a young Barack Obama.”(Sean Hannity, Hannity’s America, October 5, 2008, “Obama and His Friends: History of Radicalism”)
TRUTH: This was an event for Alice Palmer, not a “coming-out party” for Obama. Obama was invited by Palmer to the event.

But long before tonight’s Hannity, the right-wing has been spreading a series of lies about Obama and Ayers.

LIE: “Bill Ayers is an unrepentant terrorist.”
TRUTH: Bill Ayers is not, and apparently never was, a terrorist. The conventional definition of a terrorist is someone who tries to kill innocent people for political purposes. As Factcheck.org noted, In fact, nobody died as a result of bombings in which Ayers said he participated as part of the Weather Underground. (Factcheck.org, http://www.factcheck.org/...

LIE: “I’m sure he’s very patriotic, but his relationship with Mr. Ayers is open to question....Because, if you’re going to associate and have as a friend and serve on a board and have a guy kick off your campaign that says he’s unrepentant, that he wished he’d bombed more. And then, the worst thing of all, that I think really indicates Senator Obama’s attitude, is he had the incredible statement that he compared Mr. Ayers, an unrepentant terrorist — an unrepentant terrorist, with Senator Tom Coburn. Senator Coburn, a physician who goes to Oklahoma on the weekends and brings babies into life.’ (John McCain, April 20, 2008, ABC’s This Week with George Stephanopoulos:)
http://mediamatters.org/...
TRUTH: Obama was not friends with Ayers. Ayers did not kick off Obama’s campaign. And Obama was not comparing Ayers’ actions with Coburn. Obama was pointing out that he works with people even when he disagrees with them.

LIE: “Obama’s oldest friend in politics is a murderer and unrepentant terrorist. Why are they friends?”(ExposeObama.com email, Sept. 7, 2008)
TRUTH: Ayers isn’t Obama’s oldest friend in politics.

LIE: Ayers was “Obama’s boss.”(Jerome Corsi, p. 147)
TRUTH: The chair of a foundation board is not the boss of the members.

LIE: Jerome Corsi claimed Alice “Palmer would never have introduced Obama to the Hyde Park political community at the Ayres-Dohrn home unless she saw an affinity between Ayers and Dohrn’s radical leftist history, her own history of far-leftist politics, and the politics of Barack Obama.”(p. 137)
TRUTH: The event wasn’t held primarily for Obama. It was Palmer’s own announcement that she would run for Congress. Obama was there as Palmer’s endorsed successor for her Senate seat, but there’s no evidence that he had any role in deciding to hold it at Ayers’ home.

LIE: Jerome Corsi claims about Obama: “either he did not know Ayers and Dohrn are still radical leftists—in which case he is implausibly naive—or Obama did know, which would confirm he joined with Ayers and Dohrn because Obama too continues to believe, albeit silently and secretly, in the Far Left’s radical agenda.”(p. 140)
TRUTH: Obama probably knew Ayers was a leftist, but he didn’t care. Obama believes in the notion of a free society, where you work with people you disagree with.

LIE: “Even today, Ayers appears to hold the same radical political beliefs he did in the Weather Underground, and Obama had to know that was also the case when he first met Ayers in 1995.”(Jerome Corsi, p. 147)
TRUTH: Corsi doesn’t explain how Obama “had to know” Ayers’ views on politics when he first met him. Telepathy? Mind-reading?

LIE: David Freddoso calls Obama’s distant connection with Bill Ayers “a remarkable relationship for a presidential nominee to have.”(p. 122)
TRUTH: It reality, it’s not remarkable at all. The notion that people should resign from foundations and refuse to speak in public in order to avoid any connection to a former radical never convicted of a crime is absurd.

LIE: “The major media simply have not reported on Obama’s two years at New York’s Columbia University, where, among other things, he lived a mere quarter-mile from former terrorist Bill Ayers.”(Tony Blankley, September 24, 2008)
TRUTH: Thousands upon thousands of people lived near Bill Ayers in Manhattan. Obama didn’t know Ayers.

LIE: Mr. Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval. (Stanley Kurtz, Wall Street Journal)
TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence to support his claim. Ayers was one of several people involved in starting the group, and was not its guiding spirit. According to the New York Times reporting, Obama was recruited by other CAC leaders who knew him through the Joyce Foundation.

LIE: Mr. Obama and Mr. Ayers worked as a team to advance the CAC agenda. (Stanley Kurtz, Wall Street Journal)
TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence that Obama and Ayers worked as a team. Ayers attended six meetings of the group along with Obama.

LIE: “Obama is hanging around with Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright. By the way, Bill Ayers advertised himself as being a communist with a small c just when he was beginning to
partner with Obama on the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. (Stanley Kurtz, Hudson Institute, Washington DC, October 1, 2008)
TRUTH: Contrary to this McCarthyist attack, there’s no evidence that Obama ever knew that Ayers supposedly called himself a communist, nor is that a good reason for Obama to end his work on school reform and charitable activities.

LIE: “who provided Obama with the only executive experience he has ever had in his young life? Bill Ayers, unrepentant domestic terrorist, communist revolutionary... (Joseph Farah, World Net Daily, October 2, 2008)
TRUTH: Ayers did not provide Obama with the Chicago Annenberg Challenge job. And Obama has also had executive experience in community organizing, running a voter registration drive, as well as running his campaigns. The New York Times reported, “In fact, according to several people involved, Mr. Ayers played no role in Mr. Obama’s appointment. Instead, it was suggested by Deborah Leff, then president of the Joyce Foundation, a Chicago-based group whose board Mr. Obama, a young lawyer, had joined the previous year.”(Scott Shane, New York Times, October 4, 2008)

LIE: “Barack Obama is friends with Ayers, defending him as quote ‘respectable and mainstream.’”(American Issues Project ad, August 2008)
TRUTH: David Axelrod described them as “friendly,” not friends. Obama didn’t call Ayers respectable and mainstream (although Ayers now is); Obama’s campaign on his website posted an op-ed in the press that described Ayers that way.

LIE: “I can’t understand why somebody who wants to be president of the United States, I’ll be perfectly honest with you, would want to associate or not condemn the actions of people in the past.”(Paul Ragonese, April 27, 2008, Fox News’ Hannity’s America)
TRUTH: Obama has condemned the past actions of Bill Ayers and called him somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago. (April 16, 2008 debate)

LIE: “Mr. Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval.”(Stanley Kurtz, Wall Street Journal)
TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence to support his claim. Ayers was one of several people involved in starting the group, and was not its guiding spirit.

LIE: “Mr. Obama and Mr. Ayers worked as a team to advance the CAC agenda.”(Stanley Kurtz, Wall Street Journal)
TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence that Obama and Ayers worked as a team. Ayers attended six meetings of the group along with Obama.

LIE: About Bill Ayers, “Barack Obama really couldn’t bring himself to say ‘you know, I really don’t like that guy.’ That was too much for him to say. He had to talk about what a decent guy he is and what a good professor.”(Jim Geraghty, “Hype: The Obama Effect”)
TRUTH: There is no record of Obama during the campaign calling Ayers “decent” and “a good professor.” In fact, Obama really did bring himself to criticize Ayers, denouncing him during a Democratic debate as “somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago.”

LIE: “Obama was feted at a fundraising event” at Ayers’ home.(”Hype: The Obama Effect”)
TRUTH: Obama never had a fundraising event at Ayers’ home.

LIE: Barack Obama and Bill Ayers had a close working relationship...the two of them were running the foundation together. (Stanley Kurtz, Fox News Channel’s Fox and Friends, September 29, 2008)
TRUTH: Kurtz has no evidence of a “close working relationship” beyond attending a few meetings together. The notion that Obama and Ayers were the only ones running the Chicago Annenberg Challenge is absolutely false.

LIE: “The most important smoking gun is that Barack Obama was funding Bill Ayers’ radical educational projects.”(Stanley Kurtz, Fox News Channel’s Fox and Friends, September 29, 2008)
TRUTH: This is false. Obama was the president of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, not its dictator. There’s no evidence that Obama made any funding decisions. Moreover, it would have been completely unprofessional for anyone, including Obama, to ban Bill Ayers from receiving funding for educational projects because of alleged radical activities decades earlier which Ayers was never convicted of. Kurtz has no evidence that projects were judged based on anything other than their merits. This is a pure smear by association.

LIE: Emails “give us strong evidence that there may have been a cover-up in Bill Ayers’ role choosing Barack Obama.”(Stanley Kurtz, Fox News Channel’s Fox and Friends, September 29, 2008)
TRUTH: This is a fabrication. The email Kurtz is referring to shows absolutely no kind of cover up. In fact, it shows exactly the opposite. In his blog, Kurtz quotes the entire email Ken Rolling wrote to CAC founders Warren Chapman and Anne Hallett and notes that Sam Dillon, Education Reporter for the New York Times, was working on an article. Rolling wrote about Dillon, He is trying to understand how Barack got ‘picked’ for the CAC board, by whom, why, etc. – I have avoided that question head-on though I believe Barack was Debbie Leff’s/Joyce nomination.” This email reveals no kind of cover-up, and the New York Times article found several sources that said Obama was not picked by Ayers.

LIE: “There is a secret group in the Obama-Biden campaign tasked with shutting off any leaks from the record that links Barack Obama to his longtime adviser and mentor Bill Ayers, professor of education at the University of Illinois and unrepentant Weatherman terrorist and fugitive from the 1970s....There is a substantial independent report from a major Democratic source that confirms Diamond’s suspicions. The source confirms the unit is led by Bill Ayers himself and likely includes Tom Hayden and other members of ‘Progressives for Obama.’ Most critically, the Democratic source says this unit has direct access to media adviser David Axelrod of the Obama-Biden campaign.”(John Batchelor, Human Events, September 12, 2008)
TRUTH: There is no “secret group.” Hayden reports, “I am not part of any effort, personal or organized, trying to protect Obama against any leaks.” The notion that Ayers is leading the “unit” is laughable. According to the University of Illinois library, “all papers have been available since August 26” about the school reform group that Ayers and Obama worked on. Diamond, the source cited for the existence of the “unit,” declares, “I have no evidence of such a unit.” Diamond added, “I told Batchelor that I would not speak to Human Events yet he made up a quote from me and placed it in his article.”


151 posted on 10/05/2008 9:13:17 PM PDT by tcrlaf (SARAH PALIN-The American Everywoman (Yes, You Really CAN!))
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To: steve-b
"The problem is that the Keating Five scandal parallels the current Wall Street shenanigans far too closely for comfort."

You mean for the Dem's comfort?

Absolutely! - Obama will be counseled not to try this, by some very powerful people in his party.

152 posted on 10/05/2008 9:14:03 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obama isn't just an empty suit, he's a suit-Bomb trying to sneak into the White House.)
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To: dr_who

“You have to admire the efficiency of their organization”

That’s what worries me the most - mainly cause the vote rigging will be so widespread, it’s going to be extremely difficult to get clean vote results. And the Fed Election Comm is powerless - thanks to the damm Dems!


153 posted on 10/05/2008 9:15:22 PM PDT by bossmechanic (If all else fails, hit it with a hammer)
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To: clintonh8r

that’s odd coming from you

i could swear I was impressed by your post recently admitting McCain was in trouble in Ohio

a state he HAS to have

“devastating” was an inflective verb you used as I recall


154 posted on 10/05/2008 9:16:53 PM PDT by wardaddy (everyone has underestimated the media and their bias, it's killing us)
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To: RockinRight
Unless you counterattack with Obama’s much more recent involvement with Raines, Fannie, Ayers, and the large donations he got from several financial organizations, this WILL STICK.

McCain needs show voters how big a part Obama played in creating this financial mess. He needs to show voters how Obama trained ACORN workers to obtain these sub-prime loans. They also need to go after Obama on his ties to Ayers.

155 posted on 10/05/2008 9:17:26 PM PDT by teletech (Friends don't let friends vote DemocRAT)
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To: steve-b
The problem is that the Keating Five scandal parallels the current Wall Street shenanigans far too closely for comfort.

Yep, and the Keating line of attack on McCain will be helped substantially by the fact that McCain and the Republicans have failed to put the blame for the mortgage crisis where it belongs.

The public has been led to believe that the villain is greedy Wall Street types enabled by a Republican climate of laissez-faire malregulation. That belief will now pivot nicely onto McCain as the press spends the next couple of weeks rediscovering the Keating Five scandal.

If he & the pubbies had done their job and made sure the public understood that the mortgage crisis is a Democrat-created crisis, this false context would not exist. But as it is, McCain's Keating association will seem to fit into a pattern and will therefore be more damaging.

True to form, the Republicans have played nice and now they will get their just deserts.

156 posted on 10/05/2008 9:18:33 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Chet 99

Is this the best they got? Because if it is, it’s pretty pathetic.


157 posted on 10/05/2008 9:18:37 PM PDT by beagleone
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
Your negativity is disgusting.

that’s odd coming from you, i could swear I was impressed by your post recently admitting McCain was in trouble in Ohio..... a state he HAS to have..... “devastating” was an inflective verb you used as I recall

158 posted on 10/05/2008 9:18:48 PM PDT by wardaddy (everyone has underestimated the media and their bias, it's killing us)
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To: Chet 99

Is this the best Obama can do? Old news, no wrongdoing, not going to compare to ties with a terrorist.


159 posted on 10/05/2008 9:19:02 PM PDT by Proudcongal (POW/WOW '08)
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To: clintonh8r

ignore 154


160 posted on 10/05/2008 9:19:46 PM PDT by wardaddy (everyone has underestimated the media and their bias, it's killing us)
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