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This time, Roe vs. Wade really could hang in the balance
LA Times ^ | 10/5/2008 | David G. Savage

Posted on 10/05/2008 12:01:08 PM PDT by markomalley

WASHINGTON -- Every four years, defenders of abortion rights proclaim that the fate of Roe vs. Wade hangs on the outcome of the presidential election.

This year, they may be right.

Through most of the 1990s and until recently, the Supreme Court had a solid 6-3 majority in favor of upholding the right of a woman to choose abortion. But the margin has shrunk to one, now that Justice Sandra Day O'Connor is retired and has been replaced by Justice Samuel A. Alito Jr.

And Justice John Paul Stevens, a leader of the narrow majority for abortion rights, is 88.

"Clearly, Roe is on the line this time," said Indiana University law professor Dawn Johnsen, a former lawyer for NARAL Pro-Choice America. "It is quite clear they have four votes against it. If the next president appoints one more, the odds are it will be overruled."

Some advocates worry that the perennial cries of "Roe is falling" has had the effect of muting such claims.

"What we find scary is that people don't understand what's at stake," said Kathryn Kolbert, president of People for the American Way. "In the next four years, one to as many as three Supreme Court justices may step down, and they all will come from the liberal end of the court."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2killyourchild; abortion; babykillers; moralabsolutes; prolife; roevwade
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And, thus, it is critical to make sure that Øbama does not get a chance to choose the justices.
1 posted on 10/05/2008 12:01:08 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley
Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment
Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

2 posted on 10/05/2008 12:02:38 PM PDT by narses (Obama and Osama both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: markomalley

Re: R v W hangs in the balance.

One can only hope so.


3 posted on 10/05/2008 12:02:41 PM PDT by RedElement
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To: markomalley

Obama Doesn’t Want His Daughters Punished with a Baby

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNzmly28Bmg

CNN on Obama’s Infant Born Alive Act Rejection

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPZCXcTwZPY

Jill Stanek on Obama and Born Alive Infant Protection Act (MUST SEE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

Obama Cover-up Revealed On Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Bill

http://www.nrlc.org/ObamaBAIPA/ObamaCoverup.html

Explosive Audio Found Obama arguing against BAIPA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypDwNpgIUQc

Babies left to die!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo


4 posted on 10/05/2008 12:02:48 PM PDT by narses (Obama and Osama both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.)
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Obama Says A Baby Is A Punishment

Obama: “If they make a mistake, I don’t want them punished with a baby.”

5 posted on 10/05/2008 12:03:05 PM PDT by narses (Obama and Osama both have friends who bombed the Pentagon.)
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To: markomalley

The islamofascists can blow us all to bits, but do NOT take away a woman’s reproductive rights !!!


6 posted on 10/05/2008 12:04:53 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: markomalley

Please begin using the terms “rights for the unborn” as much as possible when discussing abortion. Pro-abortioners are winning the language battle when they say “abortion rights” or the even slicker “reproductive rights” — we much emphasize “equal rights for the unborn”


7 posted on 10/05/2008 12:09:02 PM PDT by guinness4strength
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To: markomalley

Summary: It’s better to flush our Country down the tubes, than lose our “right” to kill our Babies, which are of course, our Country’s future, as well.

Thanks for clearing that up for us, LA Slimes.


8 posted on 10/05/2008 12:11:23 PM PDT by papasmurf (I ain't your Daddy's Conservative, OK?)
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9 posted on 10/05/2008 12:13:05 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: markomalley

The elderly should think long and hard about their vote, too. Obama touts killing babies (for the greater good, who wants to be punished with a baby), so it’s reasonable to assume that he won’t cavil about about offing old folks who no longer ‘contribute’ to the economy, a.k.a. euthanasia. Just think how much money his universal health insurance would save, not to mention Social Security. He’ll make it their patriotic duty to commit suicide. And if they won’t, their loving families will be told to help them make the right decision, or else.


10 posted on 10/05/2008 12:13:42 PM PDT by hershey
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I posted this on another forum, but it is what I want to repeat why I think we are down in the polls, because we are fighting the wrong thing. We need to get back on track to what is important...

I don’t understand why the McCain campaign focuses on what made them go up in the polls recently. The first was after the Saddleback church interview where the discussion was on abortion and McCain said he was very pro-life. Obama said that the time ‘life begins’ was above his pay grade. They then learned from Fox and others that he had voted for late-term abortion and the discussion of the ‘Born-Alive’ act, where he voted to let babies die after surviving their abortion. People saw him as a cold-calculating pro-abortion politician. McCain discussed the vital choice of the Supreme Court Justices and it was reflected by a big bounce in the polls.
The second time the McCain bounced in the polls was after the Republican Convention, where there was discussions on this and his service to his country, being a hero and fighting for the principles of what America holds deeply.

The high office at the Vatican is even discussing recently the importance of pro-life voting, why aren’t we discussing it? I think if people would get their mind off their money and what is important for our country, they will remember why they need to vote for McCain. They just need to be reminded!


11 posted on 10/05/2008 12:14:45 PM PDT by glory2him
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To: guinness4strength
we mu[st] emphasize “equal rights for the unborn”

Why not? The founders of this free republic put the rights of the unborn [that's you and me] on an equal footing with their own when they stated the ultimate purpose of the U.S. Constitution: "...to secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity."

12 posted on 10/05/2008 12:16:31 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You went to Washington like you said. Named any names yet, Senator?)
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To: narses
The bias is apparent in the opening sentence. They could have put it more fairly as "defenders of the unlimited right to kill unborn children..."

Even if Roe v. Wade ever were overturned, which seems unlikely given the weight given to precedents, it would simply leave the issue up to the citizens of the several states, where it rightfully belonged all along. The worst that could happen to mothers who want to kill their unborn child is that they may have to travel further to find a legal abortion clinic. You don't hear of pro-abortion types offering to pay transportation for poor women to get to abortion clinics. Abortion is big business, both for those involved in it directly and as a fundraising theme for Democratic candidates.

13 posted on 10/05/2008 12:16:36 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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it would simply leave the issue up to the citizens of the several states, where it rightfully belonged all along.

States have no right to alienate unalienable rights.

14 posted on 10/05/2008 12:20:28 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You went to Washington like you said. Named any names yet, Senator?)
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To: Verginius Rufus
Even if Roe v. Wade ever were overturned, which seems unlikely given the...fact that politicians like John McCain give up the true moral and legal and arguments before the discussion even starts.

There. Fixed it.

15 posted on 10/05/2008 12:24:06 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You went to Washington like you said. Named any names yet, Senator?)
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To: markomalley

LA Times? aren’t more people for abortion, maybe this is a scare tactic.


16 posted on 10/05/2008 12:24:28 PM PDT by jincarolina (I)
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To: markomalley

But wait, didn’t some attorney say just yesterday in one of the posted articles that,”Roe vs. Wade is a lost cause.”?!


17 posted on 10/05/2008 12:49:51 PM PDT by GWMcClintock (Right after Lib Democrats, the most dangerous politicians are country club Republicans. T. Sowell)
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HA! I found the link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2097477/posts

If we’re only one justice away, that’s like being down by a field goal at the end of the 3rd quarter, and going home!


18 posted on 10/05/2008 12:53:48 PM PDT by GWMcClintock (Right after Lib Democrats, the most dangerous politicians are country club Republicans. T. Sowell)
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To: markomalley

God have mercy upon justice Stevens ... he’s a foot away from hell for his rejection of infanticide bans. But I’m sure, like most liberal elites, he thinks of himself as an enlightened secualrist protecting ‘rights’ ... while the blood of slaughtered children drips from his fingers.


19 posted on 10/05/2008 12:58:20 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Believing they cannot be deceived, they cannot be convinced when they are deceived.)
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To: wagglebee

It’s sad to say, but women have been having abortions for a very, very long time. All Roe v. Wade did was make women feel better about their “choice” to abort by making killing shops safe and legal. Just as euthanasia in Europe is detestable, so then is abortion. It’s still taking a life either way.

The way I see it, and let me say I am the mother of 4 who believes in the sanctity of life, and I am adamantly against abortion and Roe v. Wade. However, I also believe my “right to choose” comes from God (free will) and not some Supreme Court ruling. I have free will to do anything I want to do: lie, cheat, steal, murder, refuse Jesus, etc. But there will be consequences for those choices and I know that, so I don’t do those things. The federal government had no business putting forth a ruling about abortion and making women in precarious situations believe it’s okay to murder the unborn without consequence.

And one other thing: I believe that bluntness is necessary in the cesspool culture we are raising our kids in. Parents need to teach their daughters to be modest and ladylike and focus on being good wives and mothers, and to keep their legs closed. They also need to be teaching their sons to be respectful of women, to focus on being good husbands and providers, and not let them fall in to pornography, and keep their pants zipped!


20 posted on 10/05/2008 1:52:01 PM PDT by Grumpybutt
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