Posted on 10/04/2008 12:50:01 PM PDT by PhilosopherStones
“The parasite requires a host.”
That WAS the point of the post. We are the host, they are the parasites. It’s time to shake them off like the fleas that they are. And yes, I was serious about the nature of the current crisis we face.
This is slightly misleading. I thought that this was a quote from Obama because of the line:
But don’t believe me, here is one in his own words:
But it appears to not be “in his own words” as far as I can see this is in the words of the person writing the article.
Is this correct? Important because sometimes we send stuff off to our friends. We don’t want to be saying, “See, Obama said this stuff” and then be shown to be wrong. It hurts the credibility of the next thing we try to say.
The “one” in that sentence referred back to “his supporters”, not back to Obama.
I posted the link so people could check.
We should always check original sources where possible before we start sending things out.
wink, wink ; )
The operative part of the quotation you included is "a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation," or that rules of civility oblige you (the separatist) to justify why the "dissolution of political bands" ought to occur. Your post, although written with language mellifluous to FReepers, does not contain this central thesis and has more to do with chest-thumping than reason.
Reading your post, I have to surmise that you want blue areas on your map to be separate from the red ones because:
Your post also claims that conservatives produce all of life's necessities while liberals merely live off the fruits of your labor. This positions you as having a superiority complex. Isn't this exactly what you accuse the liberals of doing to you ("innate superiority")? Furthermore, do they steal the fruits of your labor from you---or do they purchase it on the market? Also, I would invite you to research the flow of tax dollars in this country. In general, the blue states receive less (federal) tax-spending than they pay in tax, and red states receive more than they paid in. That is, the blue states fund the red states. They may need you alright, but you need them too. Who's going to buy all the food you produce and sell when all the liberal consumers are gone?
Furthermore, showing some "decent respect of the opinions of mankind" might include you not lumping all liberals in with cappuccino-drinking, eco-bicycle-riding human waste pumps and not lumping in all conservatives with farmers, miners and utility employees (who are often unionized). Americans pride themselves on being individuals. Stereotyping everyone by their caricatures makes for a disrespectful showing indeed.
If you feel that "We don't need them, and it's time they found that out," then perhaps you should begin by telling them with a logical argument.
You don't need to anyway. If America keeps on going down the path it's on now it will fall. The first cracks have already appeared. We cannot have a country as split up and dis-unified like it is now and expect to ward off the threats that America is facing. Hell, all our enemies have to do is wait us out.
Works for me. We should not give them one red cent and America should be reserved for those who pay their own way; not leach off of the rest of those of us who produce.
“If you feel that “We don’t need them, and it’s time they found that out,” then perhaps you should begin by telling them with a logical argument.”
You can not reason someone out of a position that they did not reason themselves into in the first place.
No one need advocate violence. The point is well made that maybe the time has come for the producers of goods to keep the goods to themselves and let the producers of services see how far they get with no goods. Perhaps we should start cooperatives where we trade among ourselves and let the cities rot. Keep the oil and gas in Texas and Alaska; keep the corn and wheat in Nebraska and Kansas, etc. As far as that little plane company in Seattle, try eating a plane. There is nothing that compels we sell our food or energy to anyone - so let’s show them an education in real world politics - completely without any violence.
I don’t happen to think that violence is necessary.
Something popped into my head while reading your post.
There was a story from a year or so back concerning some moonbat town in Vermont, I think, that circulated it’s own barter bucks. You could use them anywhere that would accept them in that town. Farmers at the farmer’s market would take them and could spend them at the local barbershop or hardware store or restaurants. They in turn would use them to buy from the farmers markets, etc. Of course, being lefties, they would never be prosecuted for violating Federal currency statutes that way we would if we tried a conservative version of that.
But why not? I figure at this point, anything is worth a try.
If Iran acquires nuclear weapons technology and subsequently delivers it to the terrorists, where will they choose to detonate their device? Wichita, Cheyenne, or Lubbock? Of course not.
They will select a target-rich environment like NYC, Washington D.C., San Francisco, etc. Such events will naturally reset the urban-rural landscape.
Yes, but who will have to come and bail out San Francisco after a dirty bomb? Who will have to come and evacuate all the idiots who are too stupid to leave by themselves? Who will have to clean up the radioactive waste?
We will, as long as they are still part of America.
I say we dump ‘em before hand and let them evacuate their own danged selves.
That’s a good point, but I’m not thinking that terrorists will be happy with merely a dirty bomb. It’s kind of like the anthrax let-down after 9/11.
Terrorists desire a more dramatic effect. I think they will be wanting a thermonuclear device, and I am willing to bet it will be multiple detonations at the same time. Something that kills lots of people really fast.
Yes, we’ll still have to go and clean it up, but at least the opposition will have substantially fewer numbers than it did before.
“Yes, we’ll still have to go and clean it up, but at least the opposition will have substantially fewer numbers than it did before.”
Ooh! Ooh! Can’t let the moonbats know how “intolerant” we are!
Oh wait. That was before we understood how psychopathically violent they are (or would be if they weren’t such cowards or if they had the force of the Federal Gov’t on their side).
Yup. I've tried to make similar points.
I ask them, all these "no blood for oil" types, to look around their home, apartment, their car, any man-made object, and try to find one thing that doesn't have something to do with oil, fossil fuel, nuclear power. Just one thing. Good luck.
They reap all the benefits, while they rail against the benefits.
Mindless hypocrisy.
"Pull out now!"
What are the consequences for that?
Iran wants to establish a Sharia Caliphate. They are backed with arms and technology by Russia.
Russia wants a warm-water port.
So, what are the consequences of "Pull out now!"
Russia has Western Europe addicted to their natural gas pipeline.
Wouldn't they like to control the Middle East, for further blackmail threats?
You think $4.00/gallon is expensive? How about $8.00? How much is enough?
"No drilling! No nuke plants! No coal plants!"
They want all their conveniences, but they don't want the products that supply it.
Ahhh, well, ... remember reading about that military unit, if memory serves correctly, the 3rd Infantry's 1st BCT, which, according to the Army Times, is being reassigned to NorthCom? You are looking at NorthCom when you look out your living room window. The article says that its' successor will likely be made permanent. Very effective way of keeping TX and AK oil, and NE and KS wheat flowing to those blue islands.
Think it isn't possible? I am writing from an Idaho county that was under Martial Law for several months late in 1892.
“I remember a year or so back the libtards over at the DU proposed a war against the red counties. It was kinda funny how clueless they were about what they would face from the natural world let alone the angry armed conservatives.”
The buzzards will gorge on dead libs if they try it.
Well, personally, I’m not being ‘intolerant’ —just ‘indifferent’.
When it rained concrete and steel on lower Manhattan that one fateful day, I stood shoulder-to-shoulder with my countrymen. Then one day as we were slogging through the nightmare, I looked up and realized that my countrymen went back home without bothering to tell me. It was a rather rude awakening to realize I was all alone.
Since that day, I have decided to let those ‘countrymen’ fend for themselves.
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