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Here is the latest bailout draft bill if you can’t access the House website
Michelle Malkin ^ | 9/28/08 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 09/28/2008 3:20:58 PM PDT by Dawnsblood

The House website is down. I’ve uploaded the most recent bailout draft bill right here.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 110th; bailout; congress; malkin
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To: LegalEagle61

Good man. Can’t wait to get a GOP majority back in Congress.

Do we know the status of Harry Reid’s attempt at sneaking a renewal of the oil shale ban back into the bill?


41 posted on 09/28/2008 4:13:59 PM PDT by Terpfen (Romney's loss in Florida is STILL a catastrophe. Hello, McCandidate!)
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To: freekitty; SierraWasp; Grampa Dave; SouthTexas
the Federal Goverment authority also for other purposes. What does this mean?

It means that Talk Radio, Fox News and FRee Republic are off the air...

42 posted on 09/28/2008 4:14:48 PM PDT by tubebender (Why do we drive a on a Parkway but park on a Driveway)
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To: NoGrayZone

I think it was hidden in Sec 124 - HOPE for Homeowners IIRC


43 posted on 09/28/2008 4:20:24 PM PDT by Sir Hailstone (Just Another Bitter Republican Clinging to my Glock 19)
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To: SierraWasp

What is the procedure for recalling Senators from Washington?

I think states did that just before the war between the states started, didn’t they?

It might be time we called our representatives home too.


44 posted on 09/28/2008 4:22:25 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: tubebender
The bad thing is we don't know if NOT doing this will really hurt us as they say it will, with that said, I have a friend who is a small business owner, with excellent credit, and a credit line for his business with Bank of America. He is very upset because his credit line has been frozen and he is all paid up and current with them and it is still frozen--he has had the credit line for years...and he thinks it has to be because of this crisis. He has no other explanation for it.

Something has to be done because if people are already reproting that they can't get loans and stuff, then it does make sense we have to do SOMETHING. But I don't think McCain would vote YES on something that had things in it that he is against and would hurt us. He may not be saying anything because he may know it may not even get through the House. We do know Obama is saying he is supporting it.
45 posted on 09/28/2008 4:27:13 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: jimbo123

If half of what they tells is true, that is the real reason for this.

China, Europe, and Russia hold huge amounts of our debt. If we don’t bail them out, they will crash. Which will hurt us as much as them.


46 posted on 09/28/2008 4:28:13 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Terpfen

Good man. Can’t wait to get a GOP majority back in Congress.

Do you have a clue when that might happen?

47 posted on 09/28/2008 4:28:16 PM PDT by WHBates
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To: Doe Eyes
‘‘$11,315,000,000,000’’.

As a point of reference, in 2000, the national debt was under 6,000,000,000,000 (six trillion).

That's compassionate conservatism for you--Dubya style .

48 posted on 09/28/2008 4:30:48 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Terpfen
As I recall, Reagan had no issue wooing conservative Democrats and independents.

Reagan was a great orator. He was able to take his message to Americans who then put pressure on the more conservative Dems. The ability to reach the average person clearly is lacking in this administration.

You also have some good ideas to pull the GOP together. I still stand by analysis of why we are where we are, but am hopeful that there are solutions to get the spine back in the GOP. Implementing your ideas would go a long way to making it happen.

49 posted on 09/28/2008 4:31:47 PM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign state.)
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To: Terpfen
What, you mean the legion of armchair commentators here might not be able to make sense of the bill? You jest!

LOL If those offering up Republican Congresspersons as sacrifices know so much, then maybe THEY should run for office.

50 posted on 09/28/2008 4:34:31 PM PDT by madison10 (Pray for the brave Republicans in Congress...)
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To: mlocher
Reagan was a great orator.

So is Alan Keyes. Hasn't helped him. There's more to it than just being a good speaker. Reagan's secret is that he continually educated his audience, regardless of venue or size, in person or on broadcast TV, of the nature of conservatism and how it works both in practice and for the people. Some of these Senate candidates need to start articulating and practicing conservatism.

You also have some good ideas to pull the GOP together. I still stand by analysis of why we are where we are, but am hopeful that there are solutions to get the spine back in the GOP. Implementing your ideas would go a long way to making it happen.

Thank you. That means a lot. And it's nice to speak to a rational thinker in the midst of the current wave of hyperbolic Chicken Little crap on FR.
51 posted on 09/28/2008 4:35:59 PM PDT by Terpfen (Romney's loss in Florida is STILL a catastrophe. Hello, McCandidate!)
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To: WHBates

Some time in January 2009.


52 posted on 09/28/2008 4:39:06 PM PDT by Terpfen (Romney's loss in Florida is STILL a catastrophe. Hello, McCandidate!)
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To: Dawnsblood

The House website will be down because the House will do as it pleases, and we’ll let them.


53 posted on 09/28/2008 4:39:14 PM PDT by KittenClaws
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To: Dawnsblood
Section 15, page 40 still has the language making the 700B a revolving credit amount - not a cap.
 
" such authority shall be limited to $700,000,000,000 outstanding at 
any one time. "
 
Clever.  They could pump Trillions through this pipeline, 700B at a time.  These people are NOT to be trusted.

54 posted on 09/28/2008 4:41:35 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: KittenClaws; All; Spunky; ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1COUNTER-MORTER-68; 1035rep; 1curiousmind; ...

Would someone who has the knowledge to find it, please respond to info@antimullah.com and indicate if the ACORN slush fund in the bailout bill is still hidden somewhere in there or has been removed. If not we may be scr**ed in this election.


55 posted on 09/28/2008 4:45:34 PM PDT by FARS
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To: freekitty

>>What does this mean?

It means prepare to be baffled by Bovine Fecal Material; cause they sure ain’t dazzlin’ us with their brilliance.


56 posted on 09/28/2008 4:49:59 PM PDT by LomanBill (A bird flies because the right wing opposes the left.)
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To: FARS

It could be hidden in something that gives general authority to the government to do things as needed at a later date, I would hope that the final draft would spell things out precisely. I do not trust the DEMS. But since the Repubs know the DEM tactics, I am sure they will make sure it is not included in a loophole.


57 posted on 09/28/2008 5:00:11 PM PDT by LegalEagle61 (If you are going to burn our flag, please make sure you are wearing it when you do!)
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To: FARS
Would someone who has the knowledge to find it, please respond to info@antimullah.com and indicate if the ACORN slush fund in the bailout bill is still hidden somewhere in there or has been removed. If not we may be scr**ed in this election.

Seems to me that we are screwed no matter what.

Acorn aside..It is a government bail out of private business, and Shold NOT happen.

But who the hell am I to say that? A voter? A citizen?

I don'tknow, I know that Congress doesn' give a krap one way or the other what I think.

I belive however, that that is called...TYRANNY.

58 posted on 09/28/2008 5:03:56 PM PDT by KittenClaws
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To: my right

And don’t forget the committee—I forget what it’s called— of Reps and Sens that will actually take the House and Sen versions and pound out the final bill. There’s still a ways to go with this thing.

However, I have come around to believing that we don’t really need a bail out. As I’ve been trying to sell my house for almost a year the bail out would no doubt help me in that endeavor. I say that to demonstate I have not come around to this conclusion on a whim.

What we really need is: 1. For the all the people who participated in almost killing our economic system to be held accountable one way or another. 2. Bans on ploys like naked short sales, credit default swaps and spoofing. 3. Make it illegal for politicians to make law or write lending and investment rules that are meant to achieve social and/or political objectives. 4. Privatize Fannie and Freddy so they are forced to operate like a real business.

In the matter of the US Automaker bailout, I find it unacceptable that Chrysler is being allowed to come back to the trough a second time.

And that is precisely the danger with the Wall Street and mortgage lender bail out. Barbara and Chuck ordinary citizen is not calling for the bail out. It is the very people who perpetrated these scams on us in the first place—the lending and investment community and their political enablers. They not only want to enjoy the rewards of their bad behavior, they want to innoculate themselves from retribution for future bad behavior.

I see nothing in the bail out that addresses that issue. And, frankly, I don’t give a flying pig about those people who signed up to loans they knew—or should have known—they couldn’t pay.


59 posted on 09/28/2008 5:27:39 PM PDT by dools007
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To: Kay Ludlow

If Obama gets in we will have a Secretary of Acorn. their seal will be a large squirrel gazing at an acorn!


60 posted on 09/28/2008 5:48:00 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (GOD BLESS GEORGIA! SAVE GEORGIA, OUR ALLY, NOW!)
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