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Negotiators reach deal to bolster financial system
RedStar Tribune ^ | 9/27/08 | Staff?

Posted on 09/27/2008 11:30:51 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake

WASHINGTON - Congressional leaders and the Bush administration have reached a tentative deal on a bailout of imperiled financial markets that could cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars.

The bill, perhaps to be voted on by the House as soon as today, includes pay limits for executives whose firms seek help, aides said.

(Excerpt) Read more at startribune.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bailout; commies; socialengineers
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Some good news, some bad news
1 posted on 09/27/2008 11:30:51 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake
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To: ForGod'sSake

There appears to be some meat and potatoes here unlike the Politico piece.


2 posted on 09/27/2008 11:32:28 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Let’s pray for the house Republicans to stand strong!


3 posted on 09/27/2008 11:38:42 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: ForGod'sSake

no good news.

This is a midnight deal, done buy those who are beholden to their highest-$$$$ campaign contributors. GS & JPM will make a killing on this, and all downside will be shouldered by the public.


4 posted on 09/27/2008 11:41:48 PM PDT by xDGx
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To: xDGx

don’t for get the “genius” Warren Buffet who basically forced Washington to beef up his portfolio.....


5 posted on 09/27/2008 11:45:33 PM PDT by cherry
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To: ForGod'sSake
I want to know if ACORN and La Raza are still set to get a cut of any taxpayer profits realized from this “monster”?
6 posted on 09/27/2008 11:46:36 PM PDT by singfreedom
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To: ForGod'sSake

Prosperity in our time!

/s


7 posted on 09/27/2008 11:54:55 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Beware the Bear. And I don't mean the one on Wall Street...)
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To: xDGx; Slump Tester
no good news.

After going back and rereading the article I have to concede at least more bad news than good news. I thought the mark-to-market accounting rule would be temporarily suspended; it wasn't. That was the only thing I heard about this whole mess that offered any practical, and immediate, solution. Doesn't look good. We'll have to pray the house Pubbies stand up once again for us.

8 posted on 09/27/2008 11:57:15 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: singfreedom

We are bailing out those few that stole and took advantage of the American people. I don’t like this.

I found someone (a Democrat of all things) say with fire in her breath that this bailout should not go through.

www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message616928/pg1


9 posted on 09/27/2008 11:59:05 PM PDT by Blowtorch
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To: ForGod'sSake
They include a change in the bankruptcy laws sought by some Democrats to give judges the authority to modify the terms of first mortgages and a temporary suspension of mark-to-market accounting rules sought by some Republicans.

This is something Dave Ramsey mentioned and something that might free up 60% of the credit market.

in some cases, the government would receive an equity stake in companies that seek aid, allowing taxpayers to profit should the rescue plan work and the private firms flourish in the months and years ahead.

This seems strange in that we are really talking about government control of private sector lenders. Doesn't this simply expand Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac?

Among the last items being negotiated was the provision by House Republicans for an alternative that gives the Treasury authority to issue government insurance for troubled mortgage-backed assets as a way of reducing the amount of taxpayer money spent up front on the rescue effort.

This is the other thing Dave Ramsey mentioned days ago on his show that he said would bolster more confidence in mortgage backed securities. So why are all those hundreds of billions needed at all? Ease up the pressure on the market and let the chips fall where they may for a time.

There is one thing missing though and that is reform of the CRA which will bring us back to this mess again and simply cost taxpayers more than the billions that are going be wasted.

We're just kicking the can down the road with HOUSING WELFARE TIED AROUND THE TAXPAYER'S NECK.

10 posted on 09/28/2008 12:00:09 AM PDT by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: singfreedom

I absolutely want to know also if ACORN is getting money.


11 posted on 09/28/2008 12:01:18 AM PDT by TheThinker (It is the natural tendency of government to gravitate towards tyranny.)
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To: EternalVigilance
Prosperity in our time!

Heh. I seem to have misplaced silver lining ;^>

12 posted on 09/28/2008 12:01:32 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: TheThinker

This is something Dave Ramsey mentioned and something that might free up 60% of the credit market.

Newt also. but most people don’t understand how it would help


13 posted on 09/28/2008 12:05:08 AM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: TheThinker
This is something Dave Ramsey mentioned and something that might free up 60% of the credit market.

If you go back and reread the article like I had to, it appears it was one of the articles the Pubbies conceded. NOT good.

14 posted on 09/28/2008 12:05:15 AM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Somewhere I read the deal would be posted on the internet, before passage.

Supposedly Paulson and Bernanke were working on this for a month.

Somebody involved in process has been leaking really dire warnings, about stocks declining by one-third.

If this is by design, by Bush, Paulson or any other government source, I think it is tragic.

Somewhere else I read that the FBI is investigating wrongdoing. They will probably go after small-time crooked loan brokers. I would rather see Raines, Johnson, Dodd, etc. strung up by their thumbs.

But nice guy wishy washy go-along-to-get-along Bush wouldn’t do such an ungenteel thing as that.


15 posted on 09/28/2008 12:11:02 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: ForGod'sSake
The Renegade Republicans had a chance to use this latest government-created "financial crisis" to force the Domocrats to make the Bush tax cuts permanent and cut cap gains and death taxes.

If they caved, it's the end of the Republican party, and they (and we) would have been better off letting the Democrats and the rubber-spined Republican "leadership" pass their stinking bailout bill on their own and suffer the consequences when it leads to the next multi-billion dollar "crisis recovery plan".

16 posted on 09/28/2008 12:13:01 AM PDT by ravinson
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To: ForGod'sSake

If the plan sucks, the Reps. need to vote against it and let the Dems pass it. Then all the Reps. have to do is go out and campaign on it. The Dems. may just give the issue they need to win with.


17 posted on 09/28/2008 12:13:25 AM PDT by GeeMoney (Hey Obama, it's God BLESS America!)
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To: ForGod'sSake

Republicans never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity


18 posted on 09/28/2008 12:13:29 AM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: GeeMoney

and if the dems stick a tax, the stock market will get hit “we told you so”


19 posted on 09/28/2008 12:14:30 AM PDT by ari-freedom (We never hide from history. We make history!)
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To: cherry

Some of the most hated names {extremely rich backers of liberalism} in this forum are going to make a killing at our and our great grand kids expense. So what are we supposed to do now??? Take it and MOVE ON??!!!!!!!!


20 posted on 09/28/2008 12:16:54 AM PDT by cva66snipe ($.01 The current difference between the DEM's and GOP as well as their combined worth to this nation)
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