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Battle with the Taliban: Pakistan could defeat militants in months
The Telegraph ^ | 9/26/2008 | Isambard Wilkinson in Tang Khatta

Posted on 09/26/2008 3:34:04 PM PDT by bruinbirdman

For the past six weeks Pakistani troops supported by helicopter gunships, tanks and heavy artillery have begun to drive Taliban militants out of the tribal area of Bajaur.

The action was visible as Cobra helicopters pounded positions outside the village of Tang Khatta, a short distance from Khar, Bajaur's main town, and ground troops fought an hour-long gun battle.

Militants have regularly attacked the village compounds with rockets since they were pushed out two weeks ago.

The sound of explosions and machine guns were audible from behind Tang Khatta's thick mud walls as soldiers traded fire with the Taliban across fields hemmed in by barren mountains.

The army claims it has killed over 1,000 militants in Bajaur, a place described by commanders as the "centre of gravity of the insurgency".

"The threat from Bajaur radiates in all directions," said Maj Gen Tariq Khan, the commanding officer of the Frontier Corps, a paramilitary force engaged in the bulk of counter-insurgency operations in the tribal areas.

"If we dismantle this here and destroy its leadership then 65 percent of militancy will be controlled. If they lose this, they lose everything."

Khar and its surroundings are deserted. Soldiers have taken over the area's numerous schools and nearly a third of Bajaur's one million people have fled the fighting.

At Tang Khatta militants took cover in fields of half-harvested maize, caves and dried-up ravines a mile away.

"I wish I could take you there but they are in the nullahs [ravines]," Colonel Javaid Baloch told a group of journalists taken to the village on a visit organised by the military.

But fighting did not all go the army's way. Three officers - one of whom lost both his legs - were seriously injured.

Pakistan reluctantly signed up to the American-led "war on terror" after

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bajaur; islam; miscreants; mohammedanism; pakistan; taliban; wot

1 posted on 09/26/2008 3:34:05 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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To: bruinbirdman
We seem to hear this every couple of months and then they suddenly sign a peace agreement. I will believe it when I see it. They would have to execute half of the ISI to make it happen anyways.
2 posted on 09/26/2008 4:02:21 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: Dawnsblood
"We seem to hear this every couple of months "

I do not recall, "The army claims it has killed over 1,000 militants " before.

Remember, there is a new patsy for president in Pakistan and an Army tired of the terrorists who have infiltrated from Iraq and the world.

yitbos

3 posted on 09/26/2008 4:11:03 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." - Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman

For entrenched terrorists, one word - NAPALM.


4 posted on 09/26/2008 4:39:10 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: bruinbirdman

Does Pakistan really want to defeat the Taliban?


5 posted on 09/26/2008 4:42:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Pssssst! They dont call it Napalm any more...we call them “fire bombs”. I love fire bombs:o)


6 posted on 09/26/2008 4:55:15 PM PDT by TheGunny
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To: BenLurkin
"Does Pakistan really want to defeat the Taliban?"

Do Taliban, al Qaeda want nukes?

yitbos

7 posted on 09/26/2008 7:02:08 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." - Ayn Rand)
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To: bruinbirdman; Dawnsblood

Pakistan also has a new CINC, Ashfaq Parvez Kayani. He is the guy that crushed the Taliban in the Swat valley. He seems to do a good job when the politicians let him off the leash.


8 posted on 09/27/2008 3:33:51 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: BenLurkin; G8 Diplomat; Straight Vermonter; Dog; Cap Huff; BOBTHENAILER; tobyhill; NormsRevenge; ...
Well,...I think they are getting more serious ...

Pakistan: Al-Qaeda satellite cell smashed in Karachi raid

9 posted on 09/27/2008 10:51:59 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Marine_Uncle

fyi


10 posted on 09/27/2008 10:53:34 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: TheBlueMax; WLR; iThinkBig; Molly K.; bayouranger; beebuster2000; maine-iac7; lancer; voletti; ...

Pakistan ۋﮧ۱م

FReepmail if you want on or off

11 posted on 09/27/2008 11:45:44 AM PDT by G8 Diplomat (The Middle East: We put the OIL in TURMOIL!)
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To: BenLurkin
Does Pakistan really want to defeat the Taliban?

I think they do - but we need to remember that the NWFT of Pakistan, up against the 'Ghan border, is in such an almost impossible area to fight that - as McCain said - NO ONE has conquered, not even the gov't of Pakistan itself, since Alexander the Great.

It's the terrain that protects the Tribe and Tribal Elders. However, the Taliban and al Q, especially, are outsiders. They have only been able to operate there because of killing and intimidation of the local tribes.

By backing up the Elders/tribes, giving them courage to fight the 'miscreants' (as they call them) themselves, we could see the best solution. (looks up the word "miscreant". Our PC police don't want us using the word "terrorist." So let's call them what Pakistan calls them: "Miscreants" - it's far more fitting.

Nobama made a big noise about attacking PAKISTAN = cutting off the money we send them - while he ignores that we are paying for their letting us send foods, supplies and equipment to our troops in Afghanistan through Pakistan.

Look at the map. WE aren't allowed to send supplies through other bordering countries, nor do so via their airspace.

McCain and our media outlets need to emphasize this: "Hey, Nobama. If we alienate Pakistan, how do we get supplies to our troops in Afgnaistan? And, by the way, are you not aware of the real progress we are making with Pakistan AND the tribes in the NWFT to take on, kill and drive out the "miscreants"? And why would this not be - and is - the only way we can stamp out the Taliban and al Q in that area?"

12 posted on 09/27/2008 1:09:18 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in sending this message but a lot of electrons were terribly agitated)
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To: maine-iac7
Look at the map. WE aren't allowed to send supplies through other bordering countries, nor do so via their airspace. McCain and our media outlets need to emphasize this: "Hey, Nobama. If we alienate Pakistan, how do we get supplies to our troops in Afgnaistan? And, by the way, are you not aware of the real progress we are making with Pakistan AND the tribes in the NWFT to take on, kill and drive out the "miscreants"? And why would this not be - and is - the only way we can stamp out the Taliban and al Q in that area?" Well, thinking outside the box (cliched bromide, I know) helps create options where none seem to exist right now. I reiterate that the old US goal of nurturing an unnatural state like Pakistan to be used as a lever against India or Iran or China etc now stands obselete. New vistas of cooperation with both India and Afghanistan beckon. Brekaing up pakistan offers the best and most assuredly secure land access means to resource-rich central asia (Baluchistan with its Gwadar port and direct road links to Afghanistan would make the ally Kosovo never can) and the part of Kashmir under POakistan's savage occupation, when reunited with India offer a way to both undercut Chinese access to the persian gulf as well as enable friendly Indian access to the CARs and Russia. But hey, asking these heavily intellectual wannabe presidents to think outta the box is hard to do. Bush, for all the names folks called him, did think outta the box with regards to sealing a possible alliance with India - that other, great multiethnic democracy - and has thereby changed the nature of the game for the next 50 yrs. JMVHOs onlee.
13 posted on 09/27/2008 3:37:03 PM PDT by voletti (There's no place, I can be, since I found, serenity.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have a feeling they actually mean to destroy the Taliban and al Qaeda at this point. Mechanisms will probably be put in place to slowly weed out all the Taliban supporters within the joint Intel service.


14 posted on 09/27/2008 8:10:18 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Duncan Hunter was our best choice.)
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To: Marine_Uncle

Let’s hope so!


15 posted on 09/27/2008 9:21:50 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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